New rewire and fuse board - views on work.

[Debrahim]

Hi,

I’d appreciate views on the fuse board.

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It’s been completely rewired and I’m unhappy with the quality.

I’ve messaged him about it and described the board as a complete mess, and poor workmanship ship. For entry for the 25mm cables and 16mm tails he used the knock out but didn’t bother using the plastic cable holder - which is a couple of quid.

Also with the cables coming in through the back, there is no plastic or anything so the metal of the board could rub against the metal of the board.

his reply is below

a. - there is a reason why cables shouldn't be perfectly arrange in the fuse box because it could create electromagnetic field resulting in humming sound in the fuse box- you would probably think that's ridiculous ! But it's a fact!


Quite frankly I’m shocked, would you be happy with the work, paying over 4k? And supplying the board all second fix items etc? So basically 5k?

He has also created 5 additional lighting circuits downstairs, I live in a three bed terraced house.

1) for 6 down lights in a 2.5m x 2m room.
2) just the ground hallway light.
3) the lounge dinner, two lights and two wall lights.
4) a porch light and floodlight.
5) under stairs light simply 2 lights.

His reply is that it is is better… but then it’s all on a dual rcd so it doesn’t really help in my opinion.

We agreed the whole of downstairs on a circuit except the hallway on a separate one. (He said that was best practice.

I’ve attached photos and the pieces that I believe should go there. One is too big.

 

[Dustydazzler]

If I were to attend any domestic job and the home owner tells me that the property is FULLY RE_WIRED and I drop the lid off the board to find loads and loads of red and black cable then it has not been FULLY RE_WIRED.
As for the dogs dinner of a new board well some sparks just dont care and the board is pretty standard to what I find on a weekly basis.
The lashed in cables could have been made to look much neater and as I mention above 25 quids worth of plastic trunking up the all would have made it look at least like they gave a Sh!t

 

[littlespark]

This is the question.

Apart from being a little untidy, does the work conform to BS7671. (good workmanship not withstanding)

Was a certificate issued would be the more important question.

 

[nicebutdim]

As others have said, red and black hasn't been used for new installations since 2007.

If it was a rewire, then carpets up, boards up, decorating after. Different than just changing the board.
If it was a full rewire, id be checking more than just the board....

Come to think of it.... why is the cover off?

Presumably removed by the OP for purposes of taking the picture.

More concerning is the board swinging in the breeze with no cover, to bottom left of image.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Presumably removed by the OP for purposes of taking the picture.

More concerning is the board swinging in the breeze with no cover, to bottom left of image.

I assumed this was the old board just temporarily left on for a builder supply for tools , kettle etc.
I hope it isn't still live and been left like that

 

[SJD]

Never fitted a Hager board with SPD but something doesn't look right. Is that have the lower supply is connected and is there a cpc to it, the galvanised link across the top of the earth terminals looks odd.

It is difficult to see, but my understanding is the two top connections of the SPD are Earth, and while I can see they are linked, I can't actually see any earth cable connecting them to the earth terminal.

 

[Debrahim]

You purchased it, he should not have fitted it.

Hi, I told him I wanted a hager board. He mentioned it needs SPD, and RCD protection, and that it needs x amount of ways. I sent him links of the board, and he agreed to it, and I ordered it from a reputable wholesaler name beginning with T.

 

[Debrahim]

He knows my job - and is silly enough to put stuff like this in writing!.
He is insistent that the board is up to scratch, good quality etc, despite nothing covering the holes where the fingers come in, (child finger could fit in), he thinks its a good install, and that the NICEIC would say it is all good.

 

[Debrahim]

Hi, I took the photo when he was in the loo or nipped to the van. That board was left on, - him leaving it to the plasterer to disconnect etc.

 

[nicebutdim]

He knows my job - and is silly enough to put stuff like this in writing!.
He is insistent that the board is up to scratch, good quality etc, despite nothing covering the holes where the fingers come in, (child finger could fit in), he thinks its a good install, and that the NICEIC would say it is all good.

Which holes are you referring to? The image isn't very clear. *Edit: I can now see the incoming tails.

Hi, I took the photo when he was in the loo or nipped to the van. That board was left on, - him leaving it to the plasterer to disconnect etc.

So this isn't the finished job?

 

[Debrahim]

Hi, no it was left open, I wouldn't have even have thought to check the board, It was when he was working on it, and nipped to the loo/ or to the van I can't remember.

The cover is in place now, and the old board removed.

Someone asked about the plaster Hager board below - that was installed in 2012 for our kitchen extension. I've not opened it, so can't comment on quality etc.

I've had metal switches/plugs installed - my understanding is that they need their own earthing. Is it legal for me to simply unscrew to open (clearly won't touch anything etc) to take a photo.

He thinks the job is complete and is chasing me for money. I'm worried about the rest of the install given the way the fuse board has been hashed together.

He finally agreed to come and sort the board, and I was going to pay him after that, so that I get my certificate. But given the comments i'm unsure what to do next.

 

[westward10]

Can he explain the cables with red and black cores.

 

[Debrahim]

Which holes are you referring to? The image isn't very clear. *Edit: I can now see the incoming tails.



So this isn't the finished job?

Hi yes this is the finished job. He wants payment and will then issue the certificate.

 

[Debrahim]

Can he explain the cables with red and black cores.

This will be put to to him.

 

[Debrahim]

Presumably removed by the OP for purposes of taking the picture.

More concerning is the board swinging in the breeze with no cover, to bottom left of image.

Nope, it was left off by him. I haven't removed the cover. I wouldn't like to fall foul of the law. If it is legal, then I can take an updated pic although he is coming on Wednesday to rectify.

 

[Dustydazzler]

The job isn't FINSIHSED until you get your EIC (certificate) and YOU are 100% with the JOB you were quoted for. IF you are NOT happy then DONT PAY