No cpc on lighting and no neutral continuity on kitchen ring

[Muzza115]

Hi All,
I recently replaced an old rewirable fuse board for metal split load rcd board. However on testing prior to replacement I noted that one of the lighting circuits doesn’t have a cpc. I’ve put this in the EIC for the new board that no cpc for lights, advised client that needs rewiring and advise against metal fittings accessories etc,is this the right course of action to take? They do already have metal fittings on this circuit, Is rcd protection enough to cover this? Also the kitchen ring has no continuity on the neutral conductor, I’ve had all the accessories off to find it but can’t, I’m assuming the break maybe in a buried joint box as the kitchen is an old extension. What’s the best course of action to take regarding this please?
Thanks

 

[Muzza115]

Do the NICEIC use ‘non conformities’? I’m guessing this wouldn’t apply in this case anyhow, would it be more for a lack of paperwork?

 

[Andy78]

Do the NICEIC use ‘non conformities’? I’m guessing this wouldn’t apply in this case anyhow, would it be more for a lack of paperwork?

Yes, work carried out not in compliance with the regs would be a non conformity.

 

[Muzza115]

Do the NICEIC use ‘non conformities’? I’m guessing this wouldn’t apply in this case anyhow, would it be more for a lack of paperwork?

 

[Muzza115]

I understand that Andy but what I meant was would it be an out right fail or are you given the opportunity to rectify with a revisit? Or possibly just photographic proof that the remedials have been done without a revisit? Thanks

 

[elsparko]

I’m gonna hand myself in elsparko. Hangings too good for me.

I understand that Andy but what I meant was would it be an out right fail or are you given the opportunity to rectify with a revisit? Or possibly just photographic proof that the remedials have been done without a revisit? Thanks

youre taken straight to jail after a good seeing to from dale winton

 

[Andy78]

I understand that Andy but what I meant was would it be an out right fail or are you given the opportunity to rectify with a revisit? Or possibly just photographic proof that the remedials have been done without a revisit? Thanks

That would be down to the assessor. I would reckon you would be questioned about any serious non conformity related to your work. I also reckon you would have had to have demonstrated high levels of negligence and incompetence to actually fail though.

The way the NICEIC is run these days I would reckon it would be a chargeable re visit for non conformity, it certainly would be for a "fail"

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Knowing the NICEIC if its them, then worse case scenario unless the install is really really bad is they will arrange another assessment visit in due course once any issues have been rectified - for another fee of course.
They do like to get you to do your RFC tests though and you could risk it but if they ask you to test that circuit you are up the creek without a paddle. dont try and blag it, you have time before Saturday to sort this but need to get working and to be able to explain to the assessor what you have done and the reasons why. let us all know the outcome.

 

[Muzza115]

The job is neat and tidy and meets all other criteri apart from the issues. I’ve actually since spoken to the client and they’re happy for me to sort out Thursday. I’ll keep you posted on how I get on with assessment. Cheers all.

 

[Octopus]

Matey - you have learnt some important facts on this thread ......... just make sure you remember them all ...............

 

[Muzza115]

Thanks for your valued input guys... will update in due course. Cheers

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Thanks for your valued input guys... will update in due course. Cheers

Well done for replying and taking the constructive criticism for what it is and not personal, a lot of people run a mile.

 

[Octopus]

Out of interest what was the size of the DNO fuse and the CSA of the tails / main earth?

 

[Muzza115]

Cheers Gavin. I don’t get precious about constructive criticism. I kind of expected what the response to the post would be.

Hi Murdoch 100Amp BS7671. Was 25mm already to meter from fuse. I upgraded to 25mm from 16mm load side of meter. Main Earth already 16mm, bonding to gas and water already 10mm.

 

[littlespark]

youre taken straight to jail after a good seeing to from dale winton

Too soon?

I upgraded to 25mm from 16mm load side of meter.

Seal Fairies on overtime this week

 

[Octopus]

Hi Murdoch 100Amp BS7671. Was 25mm already to meter from fuse. I upgraded to 25mm from 16mm load side of meter. Main Earth already 16mm, bonding to gas and water already 10mm.

interesting - never seen one of those