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[Scornio]

Hi need a bit of advice.

Quoted to do some works within a kitchen. I did a day, then I had a sub contractor finish it for me.

I'm domestic installer. I effectively 'designed' the works done and half did the 'construction' whilst first fixing.

My sub contractor 'tested' the works at the end and filled certificate...I then signed all three signatories but as a collective one signature.

This client was appalled I had used a sub contractor, rang the NICEIC and they have written saying that I can't use one.
This is news to me, as I sub all the time to even bigger companies.

Well, this has gone to court and he has used the two emails sent to him by the NICEIC stating I'm breaching protocol.

Am I missing something or can somebody enlighten me????!!!!

 

[shanky887614]

Tbh, i know on a general level its a no no to sign other sparks'work off but to my naivety i honestly thought it was ok to use a subby whose proved himself time and time again to me to be competent.

blow his mind, get your mate to fill in an iinstallation report, you will your bit in on seperate paperwork and hand both to client.

or to wind him up further just do an eicr on it instead, your not saying you installed his work then

 

[shanky887614]

so, you've been knocked for £150, but received £450 of the £600 quote? tempest in a pi$$ pot. take it on the chin and move on. some of us have lost far more.

all the op has toto do is sell the debt and the guy will pay then, those guys make balifs etc look tame (the high court ones)

 

[rapparee]

I know of a customer who was a bricklayer/building contractor who was a bit slow in coming up with the money to a few men who were subbed in. After several months of ballsing about there was a final phone call made to him.

Men : "Have you got that money for us yet"
Builder: "No i have to see..."
Men: [interrupts]"That's alright whenever you get it give us a shout..... by the way we have your cement mixer, trailer and jeep, you'll get them back whenever you come up with the dough"

The men had their money that afternoon. Was this strictly legal? Probably not. But there was more than £150 at stake, I would be inclined to remind the customer that he owes me £150 and if he didn't come up with it i'd embarrass him in local pub etc. Although id be tempted to go sparkey joe's route.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Get a couple of ton of loose aggregate dumped against the front door.

 

[rapparee]

Get a couple of ton of loose aggregate dumped against the front door.

Its a lot of effort for no pay off.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Its a lot of effort for no pay off.

Personally IMO the customer could keep the £150 because it would compensate him for the amount of distress, embarrassment and alarm I would cause him lol

 

[Leesparkykent]

And just for the crack I would sign him and his address up to every free subscription I could find on the net haha

 

[frontier219]

And just for the crack I would sign him and his address up to every free subscription I could find on the net haha

Now that IS a good idea. Send a few thousand leaflets/magazines to his house.

Although, if you live near, make sure you give the postie a good tip at Christmas!

 

[PEG]

...It's Friday night,and the advice is amusing,but some of it is of no use,if you have ever been involved in any real debt collection...

My own personal view,is,the OP has made two mistakes,the first was using " a trustworthy" subby,who left a front off...the second was the abusive e-mail.

If this only costs you £150,wipe your mouth,and consider it a cheap lesson,a good barrister costing upwards of £500/Hr.

For the amounts concerned,you will not educate a truculent customer,and,believe me when i tell you just how fast you would hand over £150,to get yer belt and shoelaces back :bobby:

 

[telectrix]

as you have his email and basic personal details, sign him up to a few on line dating sites.


he'll get that much grief off his missus, it'll be worth the £150.

 

[telectrix]

send him some packs of condoms in plain brown envelopes.