Outdoor socket notifiable

067256 · Mar 25, 2014

Sorry to go over old ground but just need clarification. I have extended the ring main in a kitchen and customer now wants an outdoor socket. Is this now notifiable?
I believe not as ammended rules state notifiable for new DB, new circuit, work in special location?
Thanks.

trev · Mar 25, 2014

Every day's a school day, cheers lads.

SirKit Breaker · Mar 25, 2014

I have lot the plot reading this thread, but i assume you are putting a socket outside. If it is fixed to the house wall, then it is not notifiable.

Octopus · Mar 25, 2014

Don't forget a rewire is notifiable

Hawkmoon · Mar 25, 2014

SirKit Breaker said:
I have lot the plot reading this thread, but i assume you are putting a socket outside. If it is fixed to the house wall, then it is not notifiable.

And presumably (from the kitchen rfc) if you run swa 20M across your garden and mount it in your shed, it is not notifiable

HandySparks · Mar 25, 2014

Hawkmoon said:
And presumably (from the kitchen rfc) if you run swa 20M across your garden and mount it in your shed, it is not notifiable

Correct. Only notifiable if it's a new circuit, even if outdoors.

I think it's crazy, myself. For the amount of work that has to be notified, it's hardly worth bothering to stay registered.

NickD · Mar 25, 2014

HandySparks said:
I think it's crazy, myself. For the amount of work that has to be notified, it's hardly worth bothering to stay registered.

And what with making registration harder with the changes to the EAS too, they might as well just start issuing spurs saddles and Colt 45s...

Hawkmoon · Mar 25, 2014

HandySparks said:
Correct. Only notifiable if it's a new circuit, even if outdoors.

I think it's crazy, myself. For the amount of work that has to be notified, it's hardly worth bothering to stay registered.

It's the cu changes that make it worthwhile - a rewire you could price to cover notification through BC

Badged01 · Mar 26, 2014

NickD said:
And what with making registration harder with the changes to the EAS too, they might as well just start issuing spurs saddles and Colt 45s...

All I can think is there must be more cowboys in the badlands as in gods own country we've still kept the 'original' part P definitions! Or is it that they just dont trust us ......

SPARTYKUS · Mar 26, 2014

HandySparks said:
Correct. Only notifiable if it's a new circuit, even if outdoors.

I think it's crazy, myself. For the amount of work that has to be notified, it's hardly worth bothering to stay registered.

.....erm ..... Yes......:crazy:.....I had the same thought myself

Octopus · Mar 26, 2014

I must say that dropping kitchens from Part P seems a mistake - I used to get CU changes from that, but now far fewer so I can only conclude that kitchen companies in general must be ignoring BS7671

Richard Burns · Mar 26, 2014

Murdoch said:
I must say that dropping kitchens from Part P seems a mistake - I used to get CU changes from that, but now far fewer so I can only conclude that kitchen companies in general must be ignoring BS7671

I am mortified that I did not see that one, kitchen fitting is big business, and they say "what we have to notify all this lot?, no way, take it out of Part P,
we want more profit and certainly do not want to have to state we did it right".
Or am I just being a bit cynical.

With the reduction in scope it is now nearly worth it for me to notify BC directly, unfortunately they are very expensive around here so not quite worth it.

Badged01 · Mar 26, 2014

Yep, I cant understand the logic of why England decided to opt out and reduce the requirement for notification ---- and effectively Part P schemes starting to cut their throats as the benifits of being registered are slowly eroded and 'electricans' leave and just add LABC costs to the samll jobs where needed!

Geoffsd · Mar 26, 2014

You don't need to wade through ADP.

This is the law - Building Regulations:

“(6A)A person intending to carry out building work in relation to which Part P of Schedule 1 imposes a requirement is required to give a building notice or deposit full plans where the work consists of -
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(a) the installation of a new circuit;

(b) the replacement of a consumer unit; or
(c) any addition or alteration to existing circuits in a special location.”;

This is all there is - in England