Outside Lights Regulations

[aftabjaved]

i am in year 3 .2375-302.
i have been looking at regs for past two days only to confuse myself.pls somone help me .
what are res for outside lights at the moment.
regards aftab

 

[telectrix]

regs for outside lights are whatever reg. in the brb is relevant.

 

[i=p/u]

Follow manufactures instructions, rcd protection if aint mounted to building fabric and cables arent suitably mechanicly prtected.... Sure there will be more and im sure i could be slightly wrong.....and will be corrected, so hang fire and dont go install them yet.. Hello!

 

[malcolmsanford]

Section 559 is directly related to lighting installations, but they are also covered all over the regs as is every installation.

 

[malcolmsanford]

Follow manufactures instructions, rcd protection if aint mounted to building fabric and cables arent suitably mechanicly prtected.... Sure there will be more and im sure i could be slightly wrong.....and will be corrected, so hang fire and dont go install them yet.. Hello!

Your more than slightly wrong old mate

 

[i=p/u]

Well as im doint 17th edition at moment, i do know there is loads of regs scattered that could relatre to the fitting of lighting outside, but lets be realistic here i mentioned most considertions.....

 

[malcolmsanford]

rcd protection if aint mounted to building fabric

Not sure where that regulation is from though

 

[i=p/u]

Go on make me feel like 3 years and still no nothing

 

[i=p/u]

Telectrix back me up cause i got that one from one of your posts.... Many times am i going too need to read the regs book to be fluent in what im saying)

 

[davie spark]

If the lights are 'outside' as you say, they are 'outside' the premises equipotential zone whether they are mounted on the outside wall or on a pole or other structure outside the building. So without question you require an RCD. Personally. I would install a separate circuit with a 30mA RCBO at the CU/DB.

 

[ezzzekiel]

Outdoor fixed lighting does not require rcd protection but cables may depending on installation methods

 

[davie spark]

If it's outside the equipotential zone, which these will be then it does need rcd protection because working on them or changing a lamp will mean the operative working from outside the equipotential zone, i.e. working from contact with the general mass of earth and therefore not protected by any earthing and bonding within the installation. 'AND' I know, Safe Isolation etc - doesn't matter there's no regulation which says if you safely isolate, you don't need rcd protection.

 

[IQ Electrical]

There is NO requirement in BS7671:2008 to provide RCD protection to external lighting, where do these myths come from, does nobody read the BRB anymore?

 

[i=p/u]

I try take it all in

 

[malcolmsanford]

If it's outside the equipotential zone, which these will be then it does need rcd protection because working on them or changing a lamp will mean the operative working from outside the equipotential zone, i.e. working from contact with the general mass of earth and therefore not protected by any earthing and bonding within the installation. 'AND' I know, Safe Isolation etc - doesn't matter there's no regulation which says if you safely isolate, you don't need rcd protection.

Davie as I tried to get the other lads to do have a read of section 559 with regard to RCD protection for lighting then 559.10.3.2. Yuo will see what the regs recommend