Outside Lights Regulations

[IQ Electrical]

I'm forever in debt to your priceless advice but I think the clue was in the post title. NEXT....

 

[cagedanimal2010]

I'm forever in debt to your priceless advice but I think the clue was in the post title. NEXT....

:hurray:

 

[SimpleSimon]

Another happy customer.

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[malcolmsanford]

I can only comment that Davie you beat me by 9 yrs in the industry and so will defer to your experience.

I applaud your wanting to go above and beyond the recommendations of the BS 7671-2008, because as your most definitely aware it is not a statutory document and so not binding in law, but can be referenced to in such a situation.

What though is wrong on a forum where people who are obviously not as experienced as you read a posting, on a thread that is titled Outside lights Regulations and in your post 12 your inferrence that these lights need RCD protection, readers will believe that is a regulation.

Both IQ and I tried to nicely point out that though an RCD will possibly be safer as you did infer, giving the circuit that additional protection, it is not a regulation and until it is one for all lights and not just the few I highlighted, which are a regulation, kindly refrain from trying to intimidate me with your long list of achievements, as to be honest I'm not intimidated or impressed.

I'm sorry you feel the need to remove your log from here, it was never mine, and I'm sure IQs intention, to try and belittle, but just pointed to the less experienced members on here, that it's your recommendation, not a British Standard Regulation, as the OP asked for.

 

[SimpleSimon]

The only reg pointing to RCD protection is 559.10.3.2 (green book)
but this is specific to individual circumstances

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[ackbarthestar]

The only reg pointing to RCD protection is 559.10.3.2 (green book)
but this is specific to individual circumstances

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or possibly 531.2.5 ?

 

[SimpleSimon]

Ive only got the green book on ne, that regs coming up as a circuit protected by an RCD without a protective conductor is not considered sufficient for fault protection?...

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[Rumacoai]

Fantastic read, it has cleared a lot up for me regarding outside lighting, as I was under impression RCD was needed up until now. Personally I fit them with RCD's as I believe this to be safer but can now give the consumer an option and quote the correct regs. It may save them money, but I find when you mention safety they tend to opt for it. I hope no one leaves the forum as this sort of thread and its discussion makes the forum what it is - a valuable source of info for all. Cheers

PS what's tapatalk?

 

[telectrix]

tapatalk is post posted on a mobile phone for those members who have the intelligence to use a phone for something other than making phone calls ( which is about my level)

 

[Rumacoai]

Cheers

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[telectrix]

think it's similar to emails, but you'd have to ask someone who knows how. i can just about manage the occasional text message.

 

[ackbarthestar]

Ive only got the green book on ne, that regs coming up as a circuit protected by an RCD without a protective conductor is not considered sufficient for fault protection?...

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More or less - yes, generally where applied to lighting circuits, there is no guarantee that the RCD would trip under fault conditions. That's not to say that it wouldn't trip for individual installations. But is not to be relied upon.

 

[SimpleSimon]

Cheers

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Dont worry its easy, thats how i use the forum. Just download the tapatalk app, type in.electricians forum and you're off and away.

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[Guest123]

P.S. Please remove my log in from your forum I don't have time for this ****. Thank you.

Can you let me know if these are still your wishes please.

Thank you.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

More or less - yes, generally where applied to lighting circuits, there is no guarantee that the RCD would trip under fault conditions. That's not to say that it wouldn't trip for individual installations. But is not to be relied upon.

Hi
Ackbarthestar, quick q (feeling dense this arvo)- why do you say there is no guarantee it would trip...? Do you mean because statistically there are always about 3% of RCDs that dont work? Cant see what other reason...am I bein dopey like???