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Hi folks,

We are looking at a new property and noticed there was an outside Socket, which is great.

However, the cable that powers it has a 3-pin plug on the end and is plugged into a socket in the living room. (See pics). To turn the outside Socket on, you need to turn the socket in the living room on.

I'm not familiar with electrical regs, but is this acceptable? Or should we be looking to have it done properly.


[ElectriciansForums.net] Outside Socket Question
[ElectriciansForums.net] Outside Socket Question
 
Would you plug an extension lead onto an extension lead?
Possibly, after a quick mental risk assessment, considering load, total cable length, CSA, route, suitability of cable and connectors for the external influences present and of course inspecting the condition of cable and connectors.

When something gets plugged in its acting as a spur off a spur so not correct at all.
Can you quote a regulation number or anything in the ISITEE CoP to back this up?
Section 15.10.1 (Table 15.4) of the ISITEE CoP (4th Ed.) shows maximum lengths for different CSAs. Whilst 15.10.3 recommends avoiding 'daisy chaining' multiway adaptors, these are different to extension leads.

I advise if you get property that should be the first thing on your list to get sorted.
I would ask for an EICR prior to purchase and factor any remedial work required into my offer. Most vendors aren't going to squabble over this nowadays.
 
I did get carried away your right it isn't a spur off a spur but I don't like it and advise they get it done properly.
Also yes we've all plugged extension leaders into extension leads ie on construction sites but that's a temp setup not advisable is it.
 
Thanks for all the advice guys. The seller didn't want to pay for an electrical inspection, so we paid for one ourselves.

The results were quite amazing...

1. Fuse board had no RCD protection so has to be replaced (we knew this before the inspection anyway).
2. The outside socket in the pics above had a damaged/split cable and needs replacing. He'll also wire it in properly at the same time.
3. There's a socket underneath the sink, next the to u-bend. The casing is cracked and water dripping into it.
4. There are lights outside by the front door, that the sparky says are internal lights, not designed or safe to be placed outside.
5. There's a security light in the back garden, which was wired tino the light switch for the back bedroom (i.e. turn the bedroom light in, the outside light comes on).

We've managed to negotiate a sizable chunk off the asking price given what was found.

What made it even more surprising to us is that up until last month the seller had been renting the house out. The sparky made a point on his report of saying the house didn't meet the standard required for rental. (A rogue landlord it seems).
 
Which specific standard for rental is that?

Maybe he just means his EICR had an 'unsatisfactory' result.

Nearly every house I test I find at least as much as what is listed above. Quite lucky it's all relatively easy to rectify.
 

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