Paid by number of EICR's completed???

[sparkside1]

Hi all

I discussed a similar situation in a previous thread but the topic keeps popping up with testing jobs that I seem to be attracting at the moment.I got offered a job carrying out EICR's for the MOD and the rate of pay was by the property?? In other words, if I don't knock out 4 or 5 a day, I don't make any money. Travelling time in a shared company van is not paid. Is this how the testing indusrty is going?

 

[Engineer54]

Apart from the money aspect its also about shifting risk!

They have an external 'competent' electrical professional who has signed an EICR giving a "Satisfactory" grade so if anything should go wrong they can point the finger elsewhere ....

From what i remember of the MOD, they were a faceless bureaucracy, that answered to virtually no-one!! lol!!

 

[R G]

I am so glad I do my own work and not be dictated to on how long or how many jobs you can do in a day ,,,

Ive seen a few MOD jobs being permanently advertised through outside maintenance companies , and they are all paying according to how much work you cover , I enquired and the pay is unrealistic to say the least , must be why they are permanently advertising,,,,

 

[Fuzzy165]

I have recently been asked to do the same for one of the large Royal boroughs of London. 4-5 per day to make a day rate. All occupied properties, you can't inspect most accessories as they are blocked by furniture you can't move on your own. At best I managed 3 per day. I jacked it after 3 days. I've just heard that one of the other "testers" (jesters?!) was completing 6 per day. He has however just been found out though. He missed a damaged DSSO that had live ends sticking out of it, 50mm from the frame of a metal bunkbed, C1 failure! They are now having to re-inspect all of his work and there is now talk of paying day rates rather than per test! About time. There is a good reason to complete EICR's, to protect tenants by ensuring electrical safety but it's pointless if the testing is not done properly.

 

[UNG]

Anybody know how much these companies get paid per EICR that needs the guy on the ground to do 4 or 5 a day so he gets a decent wage

 

[Meggerman]

Anybody know how much these companies get paid per EICR that needs the guy on the ground to do 4 or 5 a day so he gets a decent wage

I charge £150 for an EICR to letting agent, so I am quite happy to finish at lunchtime or do another one if I want a good day financially. These moronic form filling EICR companies pay about £30 a house and you may also have a E7 DB aswell to test. Like I have said on previous threads all they do is just Ze, PFC, global I/R at best (or just write >200) and Zs. Any difficult ones get made up. And the best thing is the company can pass all responsibility to the mug doing them!! Brilliant.

 

[Badged01]

I charge £150 for an EICR to letting agent......

Your doing well! £50 seems to be about the norm in S. Wales ...... you must be doing posh areas

 

[Meggerman]

Your doing well! £50 seems to be about the norm in S. Wales ...... you must be doing posh areas

Admittedly it isn't the core of my workload, only a couple a month usually. I'm very meticulous on my EICR's. I see it as 6 hours work including writing up. Anything less ain't worth doing

 

[Engineer54]

Your doing well! £50 seems to be about the norm in S. Wales ...... you must be doing posh areas

Haha, ...Come on, now tell us your hourly rate??

 

[ipf]

Haha, ...Come on, now tell us your hourly rate??

ONE...........EICR that is....:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Englishman]

Depending on whether or not you're correcting any c1s of 2s, and the proximity of properties, two a day is manageable.

I do a lot for a housing association but also do all remedials (except c3s) and upgrades as well at void stage so am rarely under pressure as far as time restraints go, but then again, our head of electrical and QS will not allow any time constraints put on us at all because it compromises safety. Exactly how it should be IMO.

 

[Engineer54]

Depending on whether or not you're correcting any c1s of 2s, and the proximity of properties, two a day is manageable.

Depending on many factors being favourable, ...Only Just!!

 

[sparkside1]

Right then,

The contract is to carry out EICR's on 2 to 3 bedroom houses and flats. The contractor has specified that he expects us to deliver 4 a day. If we have time to any extra then that would be welcomed as he and the MOD contractors expect the works to be completed in a few months. The length of the contract is unkown, just get all lived in properties and voids done as soon as possible. All C1's will be made safe at the time and C2's and C3's will be sub contracted. We are being paid 30 quid a property with no travelling time included. The paperwork will be half completed on an ipad and the office will do the rest. Will there be a permanent job with the company at the end of the contract? Nobody knows for sure as a carrot is being dangled for us to prove our worth. The QS is about 22 years old and looked very nervous on the induction day.
Apparently, we would be constantly audited by technical officers to make sure we are working to BS7671?? The contractor is a member of the NICEIC and ECA and has some big commercial clients that myself and the poor lads hired for this contract will probably never work on.

 

[Octopus]

Right then,

The contract is to carry out EICR's on 2 to 3 bedroom houses and flats. The contractor has specified that he expects us to deliver 4 a day. If we have time to any extra then that would be welcomed as he and the MOD contractors expect the works to be completed in a few months. The length of the contract is unkown, just get all lived in properties and voids done as soon as possible. All C1's will be made safe at the time and C2's and C3's will be sub contracted. We are being paid 30 quid a property with no travelling time included. The paperwork will be half completed on an ipad and the office will do the rest. Will there be a permanent job with the company at the end of the contract? Nobody knows for sure as a carrot is being dangled for us to prove our worth. The QS is about 22 years old and looked very nervous on the induction day.
Apparently, we would be constantly audited by technical officers to make sure we are working to BS7671?? The contractor is a member of the NICEIC and ECA and has some big commercial clients that myself and the poor lads hired for this contract will probably never work on.

£30.00 per property, 4 per day - I can think of easier ways to earn that sort of money!

EDIT: I wonder what the NICEIC Engineer will make of this?

 

[Englishman]

**** that, £30 a property and 4 a day! Along with correction all c1s, with no extra time. No way on earth would they be done properly. Also, it depends how thoroughly they want the EICRs done and what limitations you're allowed; and how close the properties are.

 

[davesparks]

£120 a day for working at record breaking speed? By the time HMRC have taken their cut you'll almost be paying them for the privilege of working for them!