Part F building regs...................

[Gavin John Hyde]

Had an email from some outfit suggesying to keep building control happy we sparks should do a course to certify our extractor fans, cooker hoods etc.. never been asked for one yet but maybe one day i will. If i recall in the niceic online portal there is a form dv1 for certificating such things.
Anybody heard of this lot (email below)


Building Inspectors are tightening up on Part F of the building regs. Ventilation is becoming a hot topic right now, and electricians are bearing the brunt of it. If you haven’t alreadybeen asked for a fan test certificate for your bathroom extractor fan or cooker hood install, you soon will be!

The good news is that doing your own fan tests isn’t that complicated - once you know how! Our online course will get you quickly up to speed on testing domestic extraction fans - plus we’ll even give you a FREE HIRE of the test equipmentyou’ll need to do it!

With our easy-to-follow videos and checklists, you’ll be confidently testing your installations and providing professional fan-test certificates for your clients and Building Inspectors. And since the average price paid for a fan test done is over £72, you can charge for it too!

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Sounds like for around 75 quid a year you can have another van sticker!!

 

[Leesparkykent]

Yeah they’re bang onit around here when doing blocks of flats etc.

 

[123]

Surely its just an airflow test so the scheme is pointless, it's all about what test kit is required?

 

[SparkyChick]

That scheme is a property development company trading as the scheme name or something like that. Did a little digging on Companies House. Not good at keeping their records up to date either as unless I'm mistaken, their registered office hasn't been updated.

 

[FatAlan]

I find it quite amusing that in this day and age of energy conservation with passive energy saving air tight homes that we’re all going to die from lack of ventilation and CO poisoning. Good job I’ve got a cat flap

 

[FatAlan]

I wonder what part F says about bedroom extraction rates under the duvet when you’ve had a few beers and a curry

 

[ruston]

I wonder what part F says about bedroom extraction rates under the duvet when you’ve had a few beers and a curry

Probably blow it out of all proportion.

 

[Timbo]

Probably blow it out of all proportion.

If you don't smoke in bed you'll be OK.

 

[MJPD29]

Not a chance I'll give them money for that

 

[johnduffell]

You don't need to test fixed single bathroom and kitchen extractor installed as per instructions, that's rubbish from a scheme trying to flog a course. You only need to test setups with custom ductwork or multi room variable ventilation eg mvhr.

 

[PEATAMark]

Good to see we're making an impression!

PEATA does offer an online course, plus associated certificate creation software and other bits & pieces. And you do get a van sticker ;-)

The reason I set it up is because, wearing my other hat as a property developer, I was asked by my building inspector to provide an airflow test certificate for some new houses. It was a surprise to me, and none of the electricians I contacted knew that it was required, nor had the equipment or know-how to do the tests. Most of them incorrectly thought, like @johnduffell, that it didn't apply to "normal" bathroom extractors or cooker hoods.
The regs do in fact require an actual airflow test for *all* mechanical extraction systems in new dwellings. They also require a commissioning certificate for every install, not just for new dwellings. (Details on page 2 of Part F, if you're interested). This has been the case since 2010, but is only now really being enforced - I was told by my Building Control Officer that this is due to new directives from above.

Obviously the PEATA online course covers this in more detail, as well as how to do the tests etc.

Several brands of extractor fans we've tested so far simply don't meet the minimum part F standards for airflow, despite what it says on the box. Just installing one of these is not sufficient to pass building regs.

Cheers,
Mark

 

[SJD]

I find it quite amusing that in this day and age of energy conservation with passive energy saving air tight homes that we’re all going to die from lack of ventilation and CO poisoning. Good job I’ve got a cat flap

A few years ago, a large extension including a new Utility room, the customer didn't want an extractor, so none was fitted. But he did have the builder put a cat flat in the Utility rear door. … Come inspection time, we were able to trade the lack of a fan for the cat flap, and on that basis, it was passed. Not sure this would happen now, though.

 

[Midwest]

Good to see we're making an impression!

PEATA does offer an online course, plus associated certificate creation software and other bits & pieces. And you do get a van sticker ;-)

The reason I set it up is because, wearing my other hat as a property developer, I was asked by my building inspector to provide an airflow test certificate for some new houses. It was a surprise to me, and none of the electricians I contacted knew that it was required, nor had the equipment or know-how to do the tests. Most of them incorrectly thought, like @johnduffell, that it didn't apply to "normal" bathroom extractors or cooker hoods.
The regs do in fact require an actual airflow test for *all* mechanical extraction systems in new dwellings. They also require a commissioning certificate for every install, not just for new dwellings. (Details on page 2 of Part F, if you're interested). This has been the case since 2010, but is only now really being enforced - I was told by my Building Control Officer that this is due to new directives from above.

Obviously the PEATA online course covers this in more detail, as well as how to do the tests etc.

Several brands of extractor fans we've tested so far simply don't meet the minimum part F standards for airflow, despite what it says on the box. Just installing one of these is not sufficient to pass building regs.

Cheers,
Mark

Having just moved into a new build, I'm well aware of the requirement to pressure test a property, and the ventilation systems, i.e. the sheds loads of mastic & foam used to seal all the gaps between skirting & floor base etc; right mess. I could see a similar requirement for a extension of a property including a new kitchen or bathroom.

However, could you direct us to the Building reg requirement for existing properties, e.g for when replacing existing bathroom fans.

 

[Ian1981]

We are required to fan test all fans installed in new builds as required by the building inspector

 

[Rpa07]

And I’d like to see the course an online, free course with a printable certificate.
I don’t need a badge or a sticker I just don’t want to line anyone’s pocket.
Who’s with me!
Yellow shirts on!