Part p at its finest

[poppypiesdad]

Thanks for the leaflet ,now i know where i'm going wrong

Jamie

 

[saveloy]

train to be a part p competent person while on the loo!

I'm afraid this is only allowed when you have used a Good Idea leaflet to install the loo in the first place,and a PIR has been issued to ensure compliance of said loo.

The blame for this lies with the part p governing body.
They should not allow joe public access to this equipment ,
If I installed one after purchasing it from a shed and killed mysel ( hyperthetical question this ) who's to blame
Me - the shed - the manfacturer or the government

The fundamental flaw of Part P is that there is no governing body. Responsibility is shared between a mish mash of scheme providers and LABC. Note the distinct lack of the ODPM, who instigated this knee jerk reaction rubbish in the first place.

Agree with the rest of it though. Under this crazy country's laws you would probably be to blame, and it wouldn't surprise me if some loon in authority tried to prosecute you whilst you were 6 feet under.
The charge would be willfully buying freely available electrical equipment, without having the correct length purple beard.

 

[bugsy]

See thats the thing. walk on site and you have to do a risk assesment for opening your lunchbox it's a great pity there is not parity in the domestic market

 

[kung]

I'm shocked, was nearly as bad as when B&Q were telling a customer to do a DIY CU upgrade. (See other post... that I can't remember the name of)!!

Think we should lobby focus, can't it be illegal for them to be telling people to break the law... Might take some legal advice think I've got a job at me solictors this week, so will mention it


Jim

Hey yep it was meeeeeeeeeee ! i was at Reading B & Q when i heard the socalled specialist tell them how to install the shower and the CU ! what a joke buddy ! Might be the same bloke who wrote the focus leaflets as he didnt mention regs etc either !

Might phone the "expert helpline" and ask some obscure question

Yer like " Im at the CU now and i crowbar'd the cover off but its ok i have sellotape ! now i see the wires do i just pull them out of the rectangle that has this switch on it ? i did one at my mates and it sparked when i pulled the wires out and again lol when i crammed them in and glued them "

 

[dufjax]

Hey yep it was meeeeeeeeeee ! i was at Reading B & Q when i heard the socalled specialist tell them how to install the shower and the CU ! what a joke buddy ! Might be the same bloke who wrote the focus leaflets as he didnt mention regs etc either !



Yer like " Im at the CU now and i crowbar'd the cover off but its ok i have sellotape ! now i see the wires do i just pull them out of the rectangle that has this switch on it ? i did one at my mates and it sparked when i pulled the wires out and again lol when i crammed them in and glued them "

lololo
Like it...


Unfortunately it was the Gt. Yarmouth branch I was in... So it doesn't look like a one off, this "I deal time to upgrade" business...
I'm concerned.... Seriously concerned by how many they may have actually sold.
I really wish I'd have said something now, feel a bit guilty I didn't. It was only coz my blood was boiling and I'd have ranted more than given advice.

Might go and do a bit of B&Q watch later



Jim

 

[Myles]

that's in their garden section outside

lol !!!!!!!!

 

[garyinderby]

have a look at the wickes good idea sheets, lol

 

[uksel]

I'm shocked, was nearly as bad as when B&Q were telling a customer to do a DIY CU upgrade. (See other post... that I can't remember the name of)!!

Think we should lobby focus, can't it be illegal for them to be telling people to break the law... Might take some legal advice think I've got a job at me solictors this week, so will mention it


Jim

I haven't done part p so im not sure on how the old notifiable work scenario goes, but making some educated guesses, would i be far off in saying that the legal documents are HASAWA and EAWR, neither apply to mr joe public doing what he wants in his own home.

if you were changing the CU in your house, would you have to notify the LABC?

 

[DurhamSparky]

just ringing them now

right i spoke to steve mullen at Focus..!! he seemd quite concerned but was unclear on the Part P stuff, is passing to higher authority but in mean time asked me to write to focus and lodge a complaint.



i suggest every body does the same!! get this bloody leaflet banned!!

 

[dufjax]

if you were changing the CU in your house, would you have to notify the LABC?

Yep

Jim



Also...
The address of Focus complaints

Focus (DIY) Limited
Gawsworth House
Westmere Drive
Crewe
Cheshire
CW1 6XB

 

[DurhamSparky]

my letter of concern is now in the hands of the royal mail!!! god help us all!!

oh and it went 2nd class... not that important is it!!

 

[SirKit Breaker]

All they are interested in is flogging their goods. They can give out as many leaflets as they want, as long as they are factual.

 

[flukey]

All they are interested in is flogging their goods. They can give out as many leaflets as they want, as long as they are factual.

not mentioning part P and building regs in them makes them not factual in my eyes as the people buying these showers cant actually fit them

 

[Des 56]

Showers take large amounts of electricity to heat the element,so showers need their own electricity

Now thats a gem
Its a different type to the light you know
Heat resistant electric it is

 

[bugsy]

Good Man pass on his details i'll have a pop as well mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I can smell blood
and why don't we lobby the office of the deputy prime minister they published it