Part P Face and my view on it

[westward10]

So just been to see sister in law who has had her en suite redone, electrics done by bathroom peoples "electrician". So no rcd protection, cpcs unconnected at fan isolator, flex for cabinet lights on unenclosed block connector in wall cavity, underfloor heating and a new socket for the bedroom both on a radial from the existing ring final with no circuit protection but this bit does have existing additional rcd protection. I wanted to pull a downlight out but didn't want to damage the ceiling, dread to think how they are connected. Apparently they have finished and will be sending her a Certificate for Part P compliance, not on my watch he won't be. He is going to rue the day he opened his tool box in that house.

 

[Pete999]

Our "electrician" is coming this afternoon to discuss the problems, doesn't know I am coming to greet him with a cup of cold tea

Love be a fly on the wall when you two meet up, should be interesting

 

[Karin]

oh wow. i know i can't wait for the next update
really gets me why the f the scams think that someone who has done a dangerous and/or non-compliant (and therefore possibly illegal) job should deserve be invited back to attempt to rectify their mistakes?!

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Will have my eyes peeled on this all afternoon now for a update, almost feel sorry for the poor bloke.

 

[Ian1981]

Our "electrician" is coming this afternoon to discuss the problems, doesn't know I am coming to greet him with a cup of cold tea

He might even give you a few pointers/tips

 

[Octopus]

Maybe some covert cameras?

 

[westward10]

I shall go there open minded but I suspect he hasn't a clue what he is doing. It will be interesting to see if he believes what he has done is correct.

 

[Andy78]

I shall go there open minded but I suspect he hasn't a clue what he is doing. It will be interesting to see if he believes what he has done is correct.

Make sure you have a regs book to prove him wrong if he believes himself right.

 

[westward10]

Make sure you have a regs book to prove him wrong if he believes himself right.

Yes I will like I say won't go in guns blazing.

 

[Wilko]

Yes I will like I say won't go in guns blazing.

Perfect - I love to let them dig their own pit of despair ...

 

[LeeH]

 

[westward10]

So just been to see our NICEIC registered electrician. Apparently the radial spur has a fcu in the loft so okay. The cable on block connectors in the cavity was apparently the way my sister in law wanted it connected because there was no other way and this was how he advised it should be done! Asked if he thought this was acceptable he just shrugged and said how would you do it, err just fit an outlet plate. Asked about rcd protection he just looked and said board needs changing, I asked if he assessed the existing circuit protection, he said yes but just went ahead because it needed doing in a hurry. I have suggested he fit an rcd spur by the board which never occurred to him. I said I found it hard to believe he was going to issue Certification for compliance with Part P to which there was no reply. He is returning tomorrow to rectify all this but I could not get an answer as to how he connected the downlights but pulling one down is likely to cause damage. Sadly if he rectifies all this I won't be able to peruse it further and that is wrong because you should be able to complain to the scheme provider immediately.

 

[Ian1981]

So just been to see our NICEIC registered electrician. Apparently the radial spur has a fcu in the loft so okay. The cable on block connectors in the cavity was apparently the way my sister in law wanted it connected because there was no other way and this was how he advised it should be done! Asked if he thought this was acceptable he just shrugged and said how would you do it, err just fit an outlet plate. Asked about rcd protection he just looked and said board needs changing, I asked if he assessed the existing circuit protection, he said yes but just went ahead because it needed doing in a hurry. I have suggested he fit an rcd spur by the board which never occurred to him. I said I found it hard to believe he was going to issue Certification for compliance with Part P to which there was no reply. He is returning tomorrow to rectify all this but I could not get an answer as to how he connected the downlights but pulling one down is likely to cause damage. Sadly if he rectifies all this I won't be able to peruse it further and that is wrong because you should be able to complain to the scheme provider immediately.

Any photos?
Can you Jump in the loft to see how the cables connect into the lights? Think you mentioned a loft in the post?

 

[LeeH]

Why cannot you complain to the scheme then?

 

[westward10]

Why cannot you complain to the scheme then?

They ask you take it up with the contractor initially to resolve any issues which is going to happen, they essentially will not want to know unless you do this first.

 

[westward10]

Any photos?
Can you Jump in the loft to see how the cables connect into the lights? Think you mentioned a loft in the post?

The loft space is extremely restricted and the plumbers did say he accessed it and whilst I know this spur is all but inaccessible I had to be careful how far I pushed it because my sister in law worries about every slight thing.