Part P training . It must be stopped

[Gary Soulsby]

As most of you are aware part p was introduced in 2005. This has lead to a huge surge in people becoming part p registered installers. This is not the issue although anyone who works on electrical installations should have "sufficient" knowledge and training as to minimise risk.

The approved appretiship does this as anyone wanting to become qualified has to obtain level 2&3 technical cert and level 3 NVQ as well as sit the AM2 test.

Currently company's are offering training to become an approved domestic installer in 5 DAYS!!
That isn't even enough time to get someone entirely used to useing the regs book never mind classified as "competent"

In the end of the day these people are taking the easy option, of which I understand but that should not come at the price of safety and the loss of work of approved electricians that have spent 3-5 years training.

Find attacked the link to a petition stop the training of these under qualified "electricians"

Petition: Scrap Part P, someone with 5 days experience is not safe to work on electrics - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/207481/sponsors/new?token=xUnMdAVdRq7xSzVHb68h

 

[Simonslimline]

It says "Electricians Forum" at the top, makes no reference to country.

Electriciansforum.co.uk

 

[Mike Johnson]

Why would that complicate matters?

The origins of the thread are about Part P and Domestic Installations, would you class a three phase installation by a part P qualified DI compliant.

 

[Simonslimline]

The origins of the thread are about Part P and Domestic Installations, would you class a three phase installation by a part P qualified DI compliant.

What is part p qualified? you have lost me now sorry.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Oh very smart.

 

[Simonslimline]

The origins of the thread are about Part P and Domestic Installations, would you class a three phase installation by a part P qualified DI compliant.

It either complies or it doesn't! SP or TP, makes no difference.

 

[ipf]

The origins of the thread are about Part P and Domestic Installations, would you class a three phase installation by a part P qualified DI compliant.

Well, I've certainly been involved in plenty domestic 3 phase installs. Never heard of a 'part Pee qualified' DI. though. It is not a qualification, FULL STOP..... and, as such, counts for SFA.

 

[Toneyz]

It either complies or it doesn't! SP or TP, makes no difference.

I once went to a very large house (new build) that had three phase, I wonder if this is included in these Electrical Trainee courses?

 

[Pete999]

I once went to a very large house (new build) that had three phase, I wonder if this i8s included in these Electrical Trainee courses?

Forgive me Ant i8s??

 

[Toneyz]

Forgive me Ant i8s??

Corrected it for you Pete.

 

[Pete999]

Corrected it for you Pete.

Thanks

 

[Spoon]

At least the petition now has wording on it..... and 18 votes.

 

[Russ9411]

I would like some advice from electricians.
As an older gent I feel it's about time I retrained and i would like to be an electrician. I've seen these courses but am very dubious about how little time it takes. What would be your advise for me to become a domestic installer.I do not have any expereince,my limits are changing plugs,lights and sockets.
Thanks

 

[Spoon]

I would like some advice from electricians.
As an older gent I feel it's about time I retrained and i would like to be an electrician. I've seen these courses but am very dubious about how little time it takes. What would be your advise for me to become a domestic installer.I do not have any expereince,my limits are changing plugs,lights and sockets.
Thanks

What do you class as "an older gent"?
These courses will teach you the very basics of becoming an electrician.
Do a search on here on what books you should get, to further your knowledge.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Does obtaining this ‘Part P qualfication’ allow someone to join one of the CPS schemes, if they have no other electrical qualifications?

 

[Midwest]

Does obtaining this ‘Part P qualfication’ allow someone to join one of the CPS schemes, if they have no other electrical qualifications?

Nope, in short. In my case (lonely sole trader), I had to verify my electrical qualifications (apprenticeship), testing & inspection & 17th edition. The 2393 I did, was a 'arrh yes, well done that man', and purely noted.