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It is a Building regulation, thats right a Building regulation, not a Electrical qualification. If you read it (you can download it on-line) then you will see that some works, and only some as it is getting less now needs to be notified to the local building control. Now there is nothing to suggest an Electrician need notify the local building control authority, nothing at all anywhere, this is a myth, and a myth we are all getting fed up with. The customer is duty bound to do this just like if they decided to have a loft conversion or indeed a extension on their home. To be competitive some electricians join a scheme so they can notify for the customer on their behalf and the fees are usually a couple of quid instead of the 2-300 the local authority would charge the customer if an Electrician didn't do it for them, this way the customer gets to save some money and the Electrician wins work. The schemes have a policy which they suggest if they get people to join them they will guarentee to the local authority the people they approve are competant, for this privilage they take 400-500 off these people, usually Electricians, but some Plumbers and Kitchen Fitters join as well, The local authority building control then accepts the fact the people on these schemes are competant and do not go out to site to inspect the works, this is why the cost is just an administrative one at a few quid and not hundreds. If you are a competant Electrician for example with a Gold card and plenty of experience why do you need to pay a scheme hundreds of pounds a year to have them tell the Local authority you are competant? If you are Competant then get stuck in and start work. If the work you do does need to be notified then you can ask the customer to do it or include an extra couple of hundred on top of your quote for you to do it. There is no judge in the whole of the UK who will find you guilty of anything wrong doing if you carry out work to BS7671 correctly without being a member of a scheme, we don't need them do we? so why are we paying them 500 a year? I can confirm I no longer pay them, I have left the NICEIC, I am competant, I have over 30 years experience, I will not give them 500 quid to tell someone else I am competant.


Please do not keep going on about being part p qualified, it is all Rollocks, rant over.
 
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I have been trying to upload page iv of the document which sets out the notification rules for gavin, but this bleeding site will not let me past and copy anything for some reason, it is quite clear who is responsible and who will face prosecution if the rules are not adhered to, it is the householder who is responsible, I just wish the paste would work, I cannot even send a PM at the moment, the site is broken for me.
 
I have been trying to upload page iv of the document which sets out the notification rules for gavin, but this bleeding site will not let me past and copy anything for some reason, it is quite clear who is responsible and who will face prosecution if the rules are not adhered to, it is the householder who is responsible, I just wish the paste would work, I cannot even send a PM at the moment, the site is broken for me.

Evening Mike, maybe you punctured it with one of your Horns, you need to be careful wher you point them buggers!!
 
iv
Approved Document P, 2013 edition
Building Regulations 2010
Notification of work

Responsibility for compliance
People who are responsible for building work (for example, the agent, designer, builder or installer)
must ensure that the work complies with all applicable requirements of the Building Regulations.
The building owner may also be responsible for ensuring that work complies with the Building
Regulations. If building work does not comply with the Building Regulations, the building owner may
be served with an enforcement notice
 
Anyone can rewire their own house also, even a tea lady if she likes providing she notifies building control to inspect her work just like when an extention or a conservatory is built, where suddenely the comments regarding an electrician must notify building control came from is very interesting, also there are loop holes in this ridiculous building regs, with too many words in it which is designed to not try to actually force anyone to be responsible IMO, they know it will never hold up in court, How can a competant electrician get done for not notifying a job he has issued a competion certificate to the customer but not told some numpty at the city council about? it is so weak now after the 2013 changes it is almost obselete.
 
Aye have read it all several times and even spoken to my local city council about it, they are not interested as they have no one to police it due to no inspecting engineers in any case, basically it was a case of just crack on your a spark we trust you lol
 
The Schemes are trying to make it look like it is essential, lets face it if you had 33,000 people paying you 500 a year and you employed hundreds of staff you wouldn't want to get found out lol
They can't employ that many Mike, they do 3/10ths of bugger all.
Are they subjected to the same rules as public organisations under the Freedom Of Information Act?
 

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