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Nichola Sturgeon is an extreme nationalist, she has had an independence dream since she was 15yrs old and is somewhat blinkered (tunnel vision) call it what you want to try live her dream... the problem is as Scotland has to leave the EU to rejoin regardless of our vote or position, if they ever become a self governing country they will have to re-apply to ensure they meet requirements... the unfortunate thing is they have the biggest deficit of any EU member including Greece and would not qualify to join until they met the criteria, she is playing an argument that circumstances have changed and she can get a mandate to go for a second referendum, again she is playing the public with fake news, the original Scottish referendum had it in their own white paper that the case to leave and become independent was because the UK may leave the EU, still she lost, so she is playing the single market card which side steps her ignorance here but during the Brexit debate all the main brexit campaigners did state that leaving the EU would mean leaving the single market, this is her downfall but the Scottish people are not been told the reality here, she has no position to call a new referendum but she is trying to bluff her way into it by getting public support... once they are informed that their biggest deficit in the EU is only not effecting them because of the UK's tax payers propping them up and the crucial fact that the majority of there trade by a very large margin is with the UK then I suspect she will see her dream die but given the strange climate recently, I won't say that's a given, she is playing a massive gamble that has negative odds to try win her dream, I say let them learn there lesson but it would effect us too so I'm for her getting a second kick up the arse.

Obviously this original OP was in feb and now we know that article 50 gets triggered next Wed' so that answers the question now albeit a month and a half later, but we needed to wait to find out.
 
According to LBC radio this morning, the Scottish Parliament haven't passed ANY legislation in the last 12 months........ which makes me wonder what they and all the pen pushing cronies are actually being paid to do?
 
There's a dilemma for some in Scotland. Some voted for independence, and those same voters, voted for Brexit; Out Outers.

So if there's a second independence vote, and they vote to leave the UK, the SNP intend to re-join or stay in the EU. So the question for those particular voters (thanks the Clash); Should I stay or should I go now? :)
 
Is the UK leaving the EU or not?

I see court cases, I see votes in parliament. There's talk of a hard Brexit, a soft Brexit, Scotland says they're not allowing it...... Wasn't there a national referendum with a clear majority or did I miss something?

Seems like a lot of smoke and mirrors to me with a lot of heel dragging thrown in for good measure.

What a bunch of girls blouses....why all the performing?

Why hasn't the EU just gone full steam ahead to a clean separation.
brexit should be sorted out with a phonecall to eu telling them were no longer paying to be part of their urine drinking club.

daily terror attacks thank to merkel and her booty buddies.
 
brexit should be sorted out with a phonecall to eu telling them were no longer paying to be part of their urine drinking club.

daily terror attacks thank to merkel and her booty buddies.
Don't be silly, just send them a text "I don't love you anymore, you're dumped" thats it.
 
Don't be silly, just send them a text "I don't love you anymore, you're dumped" thats it.

The problem is we are saying
"I don't love you anymore, you're dumped. But we can still be f*ckbuddies right ? And we're still gonna hang out with all the same friends as always ? But I don't want anything more to do with you, just to be clear"

Which is probably why we are getting the respect we deserve in the negotiations, which is none.
 
The problem is we are saying
"I don't love you anymore, you're dumped. But we can still be f*ckbuddies right ? And we're still gonna hang out with all the same friends as always ? But I don't want anything more to do with you, just to be clear"

Which is probably why we are getting the respect we deserve in the negotiations, which is none.
negotiations? i think we settled that the first two times germany tried to rule europe ;)
 
true but europe relies on our trade to survive, we could simply shop elsewhere, everything i like is made here so im good, plenty of beef/chicken/potatoes in britain, someone should leave the churchill speeches on merkels voicemail
 
true but europe relies on our trade to survive, we could simply shop elsewhere
:D



After brexit
EU :disrelieved::)
UK :coldsweat: :eek: :praying::( :cry::cry::cry::cry:
nah.. end of oppression.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Please Explain The Lack Of Brexit


[ElectriciansForums.net] Please Explain The Lack Of Brexit
 
If the EEC had stayed as the EEC then this mess wouldn't have happened.

All the blame goes too Tony Blair who promised the UK electorate in 2005 a vote on the Lisbon treaty ..... Then didn't deliver .. ... As he knew the UK would have rejected it... And the EU wouldn't have had the balls to ask the UK to vote again, so the EEC would have lived on .....
 
the EU is a spit in the face of all the men and women who gave their lives during the wars, i doubt they would have given their lives so willingly knowing that 70 years later germany would be inviting hordes of 3rd worlders with their open borders, all a terrorist has to do is make it to germany then they have free travel throughout europe, does that make sense to anyone?

Merkel is responsible for the mess of immigration europe is facing right now, look at the state of calais, daily terror attacks etc, we need out of the EU
 
Merkel is responsible for the mess of immigration europe is facing right now, look at the state of calais, daily terror attacks etc, we need out of the EU

Not withstanding immigration issues, America has the same problem, with terror attacks. There're not part of the EU.
 

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