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Hi all,

I'm looking to become an electrician (career change). Looked into various training centres like OLCI, RFTraining, New Career Skills etc. They all claim that there's a massive shortage of electricians at the moment in the UK, that there should be plenty of work for a qualified sparky. But of course they would say that.

I want to hear it form you guys already in the industry (so that I can get some real info instead of a sales pitch), whats the market like these days? Is it easy for you to find work? Is there plenty of it out there? I'm talking about working for a company and/or working for yourself. Or are most electricians leaving the industry due to lack of work, or sitting at home twiddling their thumbs?
 
mates put up light fittings, make off sockets, put up trunking, yada yada yada. Stuff you can learn in 5 mins flat. The stuff no one is gonna pay more that ÂŁ10 an hour for. Simple stuff. Simples. The big sites are made up of mates. It's a good start for someone to understand how electrical installations work. From there you learn about distribution, switching, organisation, deliveries, hierarchy, everything.

that is true , im not saying your wrong on it , but the bare minimum they want you to have is at least to be on the course
 
like the time that one of the workmates at this place we were at got a job in the effluent plant they had at the pack of the factory......so we goes out to wakefield on a friday night...and he`s tellin this bird that he`s a forensic scientist with a ferrari....
 
like the time that one of the workmates at this place we were at got a job in the effluent plant they had at the pack of the factory......so we goes out to wakefield on a friday night...and he`s tellin this bird that he`s a forensic scientist with a ferrari....

I told the bloke who gave me the start in electrical that i could more or less rewire a house. he still take the **** out of me to this day
 
surely an electricians mate is all about pulling cable/s in...go get this....fetch us that....support this while i fix it etc etc...general mule......and at the end of it you might....just might get to terminate/make off.....and basic stuff like that......if you are at college on day release..whatever...then you aint a `mate`...more an apprentice....`mates` are just donkeys to fetch n carry.....

NO. the only difference is that an improver or apprentice has hi sight on higher academic goals.

I've worked with 'mates' who are doing a sparks job, day in, day out. They are flippin good, but they are never gonna do college. They started out at the bottom and learned it as thy went along. There is no economic space for people to fetch and carry. On all the jobs I've been on, everyone fetches and carries on deliveries, and loading out.


'Mates' are the butter on the sandwich. Essential to make everything go smoothly, and worth every penny.

You can't run successful jobs, with all sparks thinking 'I ain't doing that (never been on one yet) and all apprentices with their tongues up sparks bumholes.
 
that is true , im not saying your wrong on it , but the bare minimum they want you to have is at least to be on the course

NO. You are totally missing the point. THE WHOLE POINT OF A GOOD MATE IS THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON AN EFFING COURSE, AND NEVER WILL BE. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MATE AND IMPROVER.

UNDERSTAND THIS PLEASE FOR GODS SAKE MAN.
 
NO. the only difference is that an improver or apprentice has hi sight on higher academic goals.

I've worked with 'mates' who are doing a sparks job, day in, day out. They are flippin good, but they are never gonna do college. They started out at the bottom and learned it as thy went along. There is no economic space for people to fetch and carry. On all the jobs I've been on, everyone fetches and carries on deliveries, and loading out.


'Mates' are the butter on the sandwich. Essential to make everything go smoothly, and worth every penny.

You can't run successful jobs, with all sparks thinking 'I ain't doing that (never been on one yet) and all apprentices with their tongues up sparks bumholes.
perish the thought....
 
NO. the only difference is that an improver or apprentice has hi sight on higher academic goals.

I've worked with 'mates' who are doing a sparks job, day in, day out. They are flippin good, but they are never gonna do college. They started out at the bottom and learned it as thy went along. There is no economic space for people to fetch and carry. On all the jobs I've been on, everyone fetches and carries on deliveries, and loading out.


'Mates' are the butter on the sandwich. Essential to make everything go smoothly, and worth every penny.

You can't run successful jobs, with all sparks thinking 'I ain't doing that (never been on one yet) and all apprentices with their tongues up sparks bumholes.

they learned it practically

do they know all the risks , the cable calcs, the regs

they will only know what people have told them on site , and how often do you spend the whole day talking about electrics to the person you work.
 

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