POLL - Neutrals at switches

[RWJ]

As the title suggests

In respect to the debate in this thread http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...electrical-forum/33420-neutrals-switches.html


I've decided to launch a poll to gage response from the forum.

3 Answers
GOOD / ACCEPTABLE - If you think Neutrals at switches is OK
BAD / UNACCEPTABLE- If you think Neutrals at switches is NOT OK / WRONG
UNDECIDED - If you have no preference or are fence sitting (like me)

The poll is timed for 7 days...... So get polling

 

[brightspark2010]

I was told by eca helpline that it was acceptable about two years ago but but my reason for doubt is i seem to remember an niceic document way back when i was an apprentice about 2002 saying it was unnacceptable for a neutral condutor to be cut and jointed at the switch position so I am going to say no.

 

[oldtimer]

I was told by eca helpline that it was acceptable about two years ago but but my reason for doubt is i seem to remember an niceic document way back when i was an apprentice about 2002 saying it was unnacceptable for a neutral condutor to be cut and jointed at the switch position so I am going to say no.

So they wont have a neutral at a switch but they are happy to have a live at a light ???? I now know we are a joke when any schemie can throw their 2 bobs worth in the ring not because they are right but because they have an audience and feel they need to say something to impress so for all you guys that get caught in a cosy chat with these clowns just say can you show me where in the regs you cannot do that or so can you put this in writing to me so I can keep it for reference purposes this nonsense is getting out of hand with these guys and I have no doubt they are lurking on this site but thats all they are doing cos they are not giving any input and why well dont be silly they aint going to get caught making a decission in writing

 

[Dave 85]

Imago
Bang on mate. As it happens I've been trying to find that bloody phrase on the net for weeks so I could quote it on this forum. It completely sums up my outlook on life.
Some people are born to be sheep. They don't generally get very far in life.

 

[vernam616]

Some of the answers on here are hilarious, whoever made this myth of neutrals not been allowed at a switch deserves a medal


Why oh why is there any valid reason why not?, 20a dp switch for an immersion has a neutral at it, a switched fused spur to control a heater has a neutral at it etc......

The light switch should be no exception, its a point within the electrical installation and not uncommon or wrong to have a neutral there, it certainly makes lighter work of 2nd fixing

Complete stupidity if you think its "wrong" or " against the regs", i reckon some people should. Go upgrade their electrical qualifications or maybes get some

 

[mackers]

been doing it both ways for last 25 yrs ! more room in a sw box than a drop if you know how to form your wires correctly. so many times i see wires either cut to long or to short!

"can't have N's at switches" ye right thats why some manufactures now make plate sw's with N terminal

majority rule lets call it a day lol

 

[Lucas]

I have come to the conclusion your a complete idiot if you refuse to believe looping at the switch is acceptable.

 

[Engineer54]

Think you'll find the same applies to a looped permanant live at a luminaire,why would you want it.??...sits there doing nothing......If you NEED a permant live at the luminaire then fine,I have no problem with that at all,but looping for the sake of it....No way!!!

(just being a smart arse..)..:13:

Well you try!! lol!!

And i always thought the ceiling permanent 3 plate live and neutral was distributing the live and neutral conductors around the circuit, ...silly me!!!


By the way, i have nothing against the crab/spider wiring method, either.
Lighting circuit conduit runs from floors, do pass a neutral through the switch box, no problem with that either, so long as it's unbroken with no unnecessary joints. Yes they do now make switch plates for a neutral connection, and very useful when a neutral IS required at that switch point...

Anyway this thread had died a death a long time ago, and should again!!
But it won't, as those that need to convince themselves will still be doing just that!!! lol!! I'm out of it...

 

[Deleted member 9648]

well you try!! Lol!!

And i always thought the ceiling permanent 3 plate live and neutral was distributing the live and neutral conductors around the circuit, ...silly me!!!


By the way, i have nothing against the crab/spider wiring method, either.
Lighting circuit conduit runs from floors, do pass a neutral through the switch box, no problem with that either, so long as it's unbroken with no unnecessary joints. Yes they do now make switch plates for a neutral connection, and very useful when a neutral is required at that switch point...

Anyway this thread had died a death a long time ago, and should again!!
But it won't, as those that need to convince themselves will still be doing just that!!! lol!! I'm out of it...

t f f t.........