questions to ask the scam assessor

[sedgy34]

I posted my scam day soon what should i ask him feel free to comment
this is going to be a laugh!!!!

 

[sedgy34]

Very true, but at the same time there is no harm in asking the assessor one of the questions which gets asked time and again on here, asking for the 'official' scheme's stance on practices such as pulling DNO fuses, or if he doesn't have a definitive answer ask for his opinion, which should be formed from years of experience in the field, knowledge of regs, what electricians in the field actually do, and having a feel for the scheme's ethos.

Much the same as college lecturers - I asked my 2391 tutor a few questions which had appeared on here. More out of curiosity than anything else. Presumably because they weren't directly regs related some of the answers he gave were a bit of a cop-out, which is where it would be interesting to ask the scheme assessor his views on a few different things.

i asked him that last time he came out he said you can as its isolation and health and safety the DNO would breech this if they try and take it further

 

[Engineer54]

NAPIT reject people, but they ALL joined another Scheme after, just goes to show how totally irresponsible and INCompetent DCLG Buildings Division is, at setting policy.


Even the independant DCLG Commons Select committee, have stated that there is a conflict of interest, between Safety and the the Schemes commercial interests.

Who told you that little Porky Pie then, ...don't tell me your NABIT assessor?? lol!!

Can't be 100% sure, but i think it was IQ that knew of a NIC assessor that was reprimanded or got rid of, because he was doing his job correctly and rejecting or penalising incompetent first time candidates and existing members alike!!

Now if you think NABIT or any of the other scam providers are any different, that would just be wishful thinking on your part!! lol!!!

 

[Adam W]

i asked him that last time he came out he said you can as its isolation and health and safety the DNO would breech this if they try and take it further

I wouldn't disagree with that, but another assessor might tell you to request the DNO to fit an isolator and/or the seal shouldn't be broken; although safe isolation is paramount, removing the DNO fuse introduces accessible live contacts which are only protected by the protective device at the transformer.

 

[sedgy34]

Your not going to put your finger in are you

 

[Adam W]

I'm not going to, no, but then I would consider myself a 'skilled person'.
Well I wouldn't do it deliberately - that would be asking for trouble.

 

[sedgy34]

So you turn up to do a db Change but your not going to do it cause you have to wait 3 days for isolator from DNO
this is why seals drop off automatically

 

[Adam W]

So you turn up to do a db Change but your not going to do it cause you have to wait 3 days for isolator from DNO
this is why seals drop off automatically

I see what you're saying but it's not exactly 'best practice' is it.

"So why did you tamper with the DNO's equipment, introducing a potentially dangerous situation, instead of waiting for the DNO to fit the appropriate isolator?"
"Oh well I needed to crack on".

 

[Johnuk]

whats the meaning of life????

 

[Silly Sausage]

Should I re-train as a Plumber?

 

[Guest55]

I see what you're saying but it's not exactly 'best practice' is it.

"So why did you tamper with the DNO's equipment, introducing a potentially dangerous situation, instead of waiting for the DNO to fit the appropriate isolator?"
"Oh well I needed to crack on".

Isolating the supply at source , by removing the service fuse , is removing a potentially dangerous situation , not introducing it.
After removing the fuse , an IPXXB rated live terminal cover remains in place to prevent accidental contact does it not ?
And the DNO associations have recently turned down the opportunity to start installing meters with built in isolators , which in effect means the problem will remain unresolved.
Well if they're not bothered , then yes i will "crack on " and pull the bloody fuse myself.

 

[Adam W]

Isolating the supply at source , by removing the service fuse , is removing a potentially dangerous situation , not introducing it.
After removing the fuse , an IPXXB rated live terminal cover remains in place to prevent accidental contact does it not ?
And the DNO associations have recently turned down the opportunity to start installing meters with built in isolators , which in effect means the problem will remain unresolved.
Well if they're not bothered , then yes i will "crack on " and pull the bloody fuse myself.

Thanks for participating, but this isn't about what you do, it's about what a scheme assessor might tell you is best practice.

 

[sedgy34]

Thanks for participating, but this isn't about what you do, it's about what a scheme assessor might tell you is best practice.

I think all scheme assessors would say pull the fuse it's called safe isolation and nobody can do a damn thing about it these days

 

[sedgy34]

I see what you're saying but it's not exactly 'best practice' is it.

"So why did you tamper with the DNO's equipment, introducing a potentially dangerous situation, instead of waiting for the DNO to fit the appropriate isolator?"
"Oh well I needed to crack on".

Err the only potential danger would be for me as I'm the only one working on the installation here so for my safety (judge judy) I like to live for the next job I do so that was my way of safe isolation also the seals were off the fuse when I turned up

 

[Guest55]

Thanks for participating, but this isn't about what you do, it's about what a scheme assessor might tell you is best practice.

Fair do's and no worries.

 

[Adam W]

Err the only potential danger would be for me as I'm the only one working on the installation here so for my safety (judge judy) I like to live for the next job I do so that was my way of safe isolation also the seals were off the fuse when I turned up

Yes but do you think the scheme assessor will tell you to cut the seal, pull the fuse and pretend the seal was already cut when you got there? Furthermore do you think he'll say that 'on the record?'

This isn't a choice between isolating the installation or working live, it's a choice between cutting a seal and pulling a fuse out or turning a switch off.