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How many sockets can be put on 2.5 radial?
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aye...and you`d be watching your Zs as well with 4.0/1.5mm flat...Unlimited. Within reason though lol.
Don't forget it's a 20amp MCB, unless you change to 4mm.
yes but you also have to assume change of use for points served...Depends what the existing sockets are being used for, and what the new ones are going to be used for.
The term 'unlimited' is used loosley so that you decide for yourself.
Hello folks, Ive just joined the forum and I thought I'd give my tuppence'a'penny about radials. I have recently just started to work for myself again after working as a service engineer for five and half years. Previously before that i had my own electrical contracting business with niccy membership.
In the first niccy snags and solutions book back in the eighties, they stipulated a maximum of 2x twin sockets on a 20 a radial. Despite the 15th edition stipulating an unlimited number covering a maximum floor area of 25 meters. But the guy that I helped back then would just simply spur off a ring as many as he wanted without giving a sh!t!Instead of breaking into the ring or running a new circuit.
After working in the U.S back in the nineties and getting my head around their regs (the National Electrical Code), I discovered that they don't use ring mains but only radials, serving both floors for lights and power on the same circuit. After this experience I eventually stopped using rings over here and decided to adopt their practice of reliabillity and install 20 and 32 amp radials.
In a domestic situation where it is almost impossible to ommit the use of RCDs, I install 2 or more 20 amp radials serving the same rooms on both floors, 2 lighting circuits serving both floors, and a 32 amp radial in a kitchen for sockets. And in most cases have one of the other radials serve the kitchen on the outer areas for for smaller loads. This vastly improves reliabillity and cuts down on the inconvenience of unwanted tripping causing complete power failure on 1 floor. And keeps the job within budget where a split board is used.
In the case following a EICR/PIR, if my customer wants me to carryout the remedial action to neccesitate a board change. Where a departure is found to be excessive non fused spurs, I always encourage them to let me split the ring into 2 radials and leave the spurs as branches, to cut down on damage to decor and keep costs under control. I usually end up with about 8 sockets on each circuit. But in a kitchen more thought to loading has to be considered, in some cases I have installed an extra 20 amp radial using pyro to serve fridges and boilers to ommit the use of RCDs.
As you can gather I do not agree with the over stipulated use of RCDs that we are forced to use or consider, that in my opinion is unneccessary. But that's just me and my meandering better judgement based on experience. And not miss interpretation of regs as I have recently been accused of from another contractor who dare not ommit the use of RCDs. Even within a controlled environment under supervision, or when the 50mm+ rule is applied.
what? without using `lego bricks`?...well i`m suprised at you Tel....well, i'v ejust managed to stack 48 double sockets on a radial, but when i put the 49th one on, the whole pile coillapsed.
Hello folks, Ive just joined the forum and I thought I'd give my tuppence'a'penny about radials. I have recently just started to work for myself again after working as a service engineer for five and half years. Previously before that i had my own electrical contracting business with niccy membership.
In the first niccy snags and solutions book back in the eighties, they stipulated a maximum of 2x twin sockets on a 20 a radial. Despite the 15th edition stipulating an unlimited number covering a maximum floor area of 25 meters. But the guy that I helped back then would just simply spur off a ring as many as he wanted without giving a sh!t!Instead of breaking into the ring or running a new circuit.
After working in the U.S back in the nineties and getting my head around their regs (the National Electrical Code), I discovered that they don't use ring mains but only radials, serving both floors for lights and power on the same circuit. After this experience I eventually stopped using rings over here and decided to adopt their practice of reliabillity and install 20 and 32 amp radials.
In a domestic situation where it is almost impossible to ommit the use of RCDs, I install 2 or more 20 amp radials serving the same rooms on both floors, 2 lighting circuits serving both floors, and a 32 amp radial in a kitchen for sockets. And in most cases have one of the other radials serve the kitchen on the outer areas for for smaller loads. This vastly improves reliabillity and cuts down on the inconvenience of unwanted tripping causing complete power failure on 1 floor. And keeps the job within budget where a split board is used.
In the case following a EICR/PIR, if my customer wants me to carryout the remedial action to neccesitate a board change. Where a departure is found to be excessive non fused spurs, I always encourage them to let me split the ring into 2 radials and leave the spurs as branches, to cut down on damage to decor and keep costs under control. I usually end up with about 8 sockets on each circuit. But in a kitchen more thought to loading has to be considered, in some cases I have installed an extra 20 amp radial using pyro to serve fridges and boilers to ommit the use of RCDs.
As you can gather I do not agree with the over stipulated use of RCDs that we are forced to use or consider, that in my opinion is unneccessary. But that's just me and my meandering better judgement based on experience. And not miss interpretation of regs as I have recently been accused of from another contractor who dare not ommit the use of RCDs. Even within a controlled environment under supervision, or when the 50mm+ rule is applied.
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