Regulations

[jase158]

Don't be angry about it - it's not our fault, it frustrates us as well.
Do as Taylor in #14 said and get your solicitor to ascertain what certificates are available - if there are non then have a jiggle with the purchase price or if you have to cough up yourself when you have the place and get an EICR performed on the place. Any remedials can be negotiated with the electrician to bring you right up to selling state. You can't do everything yourself so hand that one out and pay for it.
Just my opinion. Ps. I won't do any plumbing in my place - dirty messy stuff is water!

Not angry, just feel sorry for you guys! I always wonder what if the customer pulls the boiler apart once I leave and have signed it off- but you guys are signing something off with a guarantee that they will almost always mess about with it as soon as you leave

 

[jase158]

Yes, as I said, no requirement to be registered unless being paid for the work.

I assume you are winding me up?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

No, see 3.-(1).

 

[Octopus]

Please Please Please report them- Not because I want all the work myself but simply because they are putting peoples lives in risk!
It is impossible to check every part of an installation on a check after the work has been completed.
I know several gas engineers who have been called back because screws were missing on the boilers.
Flues are sealed in the wall and can not be inspected once they have been installed, if this is wrong this can leak products of combustion into the cavity.
If they are good friends then speak to them about what they are doing and the risks involved.
You wouldn't get on a plane if you knew they hadn't done any safety checks, would you?

They are not friends.... Just guys I know....

As a spark I never sign off anyone's work....

 

[Rpa07]

Everyday is the year of living dangerously - I use a voltage indicator on the front door bell, I'm so suspicious!

but you guys are signing something off with a guarantee that they will almost always mess about with it as soon as you leave

 

[jase158]

They are not friends.... Just guys I know....

As a spark I never sign off anyone's work....

https://www.---------------.co.uk/n...-households-at-risk-from-illegal-gas-fitters/

 

[jase158]

No, see 3.-(1).

Without prejudice to the generality of paragraphs (1) and (2)

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Everyday is the year of living dangerously - I use a voltage indicator on the front door bell, I'm so suspicious!

Just thump on the door, don't risk the doorbell.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

3.-(3) applies to employees or self employed persons.
In effect anyone doing the work for remuneration or payment.

 

[jase158]

Everyday is the year of living dangerously - I use a voltage indicator on the front door bell, I'm so suspicious!

I always test the screws on sockets before undoing them

 

[jase158]

3.-(3) applies to employees or self employed persons.
In effect anyone doing the work for remuneration or payment.

3.—(1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Yes.

 

[jase158]

If you can prove competence, you are allowed legally to diy gas in your own home. This does not however, apply to doing gas work for family and friends even if without charge. (This has been confirmed by the HSE)

Competence is only proven by passing ACS exams and having the appropriate equipment and ability to carry out certain safety tests required by law.

Please note if you ignore this advice:

1) If you are found working illegally, (not gas competent), you are breaking the law and the H.S.E. can prosecute. Example HERE
2) You will be putting your family at risk of Carbon Monoxide poisoning.
3) Your insurance co is likely to reject any claims being caused by DIY gas work.

Read more: DIY GAS - https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/diy-gas.8090/#ixzz4boK5R647

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Problem here, is that the question of competency would only arise if something were to go wrong.
As for the stuff about having to pass the ACS exams, that's just not the case at all.
There are installations which are exempt from the requirements of the Legislation. The persons working at such installations are not required to be registered, or hold any ACS qualifications.
Such people would generally be deemed competent.

 

[jase158]

Yeah these are clearly defined- If I was to research it properly the definition of "competent" is even defined clearly in plain English. Trust me it is covered.

This is why I posted this thread as in Gas everything is covered, if its not in the gas regulations then it is in the manufacturers installation instructions, which supersede the regulations or in the Gas safe regulations, every stone has been turned every dot has been crossed every t has been crossed.

And if that isn't enough- you can be done for impersonating a government official for falsely pretending to be gas safe registered whether that is when you sell the house or when the house explodes and kills all the neighbors.
And then you will find it impossible to sell the house without a building control certificate for the boiler.