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Mike Harding...….always was a class act. Brilliant live performer and has lost none of his off the cuff humour.
 
He was down my local once. Yet another, in the endless lineage of top Northern blokes.
Did he do the tale about when he got his first erection, on a bus.
"Stand back everyone, I don't know how big this is going to get!" :D
 
Didn't find him particular funny, I thought Zippy was better.

As for his letter, he should wind his neck in. The majority voted to leave (I voted to remain). If he wants to be taken seriously, his jokes weren't funny, so he's hallway there, he should become a politician
 
A great letter. Very good. But the posting has stimulated a "rant" from me.

Rather like the USA landed Trump, "we" landed Brexit by overall voting for it. That is democracy, whether some of us later dislike the result and, in hind-sight, realise that we should have actually gone out and taken the time to vote and now want the decision changed - or a second vote. Tough *h!t.

IMHO The EC has got far too big - too many countries and vested interests in it. Vast overhead costs. MEPs vote in Plenary (i.e. all together) and say "Yes" or No" to something and then the Council of Ministers regularly overule it. What a frigging vast waste of our taxes and MEPs' time. I would have more respect in the EC/EU had really helped Greece or Italy with their financial troubles - but no. Or if the EC/EU had really tried effectively to sort to North African refugee crises. Or the Syrian war - but no, we allow people (including us) to sell munitions to all sides. Yummy money. We can't even decently agree with France about what to do about the refugees. Political talking heads.

My sympathies are mostly green socialist. I was a member of a highly sucessful Cambridge workers' hi-tech co-op - but the decisions it took when everybody (30+ Members) had an equal say and equal pay rate (!) were usually very poor. The Members varied from Cambridge PhDs (who created a back to the land commune, which started the business in the late 60's!) to locals with no or few GCSEs. They have now changed (still a co-op) to a small elected Management Committee in order to get quick and sensible decisions made and are now being very sucessful.

Cameron organised the Brexit vote. Some of us voted. May has done her best, stuck between a rock and a hard place - yes, she did choose to agree to be PM. She is sticking to what was voted for. So is Corben (which I admire him for - against pressure from considerable numbers of wobbly Labour MPs.

We will be fine out of Europe and there is no reason that useful people from countries all around the world will not be allowed in to live and work in the UK. But they will have to show that they can actively contribute to our society rather that just have some inalienable "right" to come and live here and use our resources.

Whichever way it goes we will be as similalry ok (or not). At present I am more worried that everything is going non-emc-hardened "wireless". One strategic NEMP atmospheric nuke over London - that all the nuclear nations have in their arsenals - including us (little fallout, high EMP) will take out radio, TV, mobile phones, most cars and vehicles, Smart Meters, etc., all over South East England. (I have professionally worked on military-related EMC issues). We have always had wars. What the **** is going on in politicians' heads? We are far more vulnerable now than ever before in our history (I am also into archaelogy and social history) . Being in or out of the EC is unlikely to help us. Countries will either pull together, or not. In the very large EC there is likely to be significant disagreement.

Alasdair
 
There are as many views on Brexit as there are double dealing tories, the latest 14 Million hand out to a non existent, non operational, non experienced ferry operator with no where to operate from with a french CEO !!!! so much for "we are fed up giving our money to the europeans "Moggy and BoJo are lining up a nice juicy sell off for whats left, and the thing is now they are not even trying to fool us with a sod you lot we are having what we want attitude, roll on indyref 2
 
Never heard of him, seems quite amusing but one point, Mrs mayhem didn’t take away our children’s et all freedom to travel....democracy did. (I’m quite confident a fair proportion of the leavers weren’t Tory or any other label the press would give them)
The fact that we are all free to argue/agree/disagree is all down to democracy,personally I’m not happy with the results but I’m glad we all had a choice.
 
Or the illusion of choice, remember it was DC who stuck us with this , she came back with a hard fought deal my arse, she went to the EU and thought she could load up with goodies, it was only going to end one way
 
Of course there was only ever one outcome, the eu could not/cannot ever let it seem like anybody is better off being out than in, I was referring to the vote that people asked for and got :)
 
A real leader would just stand up and say Article 50 is cancelled I will NOT and can not standby and allow us to contract our economy. I refuse to do so. I will spend the rest of the parliament on treating the issues that I believe caused the concern that prompted people to vote to leave the EU. Honourable members we must all accept that previous governments policies have led to this situation all of us have played some part in this. It is this governments intention to spend the required money on infrastructure to cope with the increased population....just as we should have done since we started needing such huge numbers.
The people need to remain calm and respect the rule of law (A good old Thatcher favourite when she was doing mad ----). If the people want to have a binding EU referendum then we will also undertake a 5 year eduction brodcast that shows what the benefits and costs of the EU really are. Then we will have a binding vote where the majority either side will need to be +15% - this will ensure the matter need not be revisited for 25 years. ...........Just at that moment, a sniper takes her out...ah well.
 
Watched the film Hurricane last night. Was already aware that 303 squadron shot down more enemy planes in the Battle of Britain than any other. Nothing like a bit of motivation after seeing your families slaughtered. We still treated the Polish with contempt.
40 years of drip feeding right wing anti EU media has us looking back with false rose tinted specs at the horrible post war depression. I fell for it!
Let’s go back to 1970s power cuts, strikes and crap manufacturing.
I now realise that our current relationship with the EU is bloody good. Still best out come will be no deal and you watch the Tory elite grow even fatter at the expense of all the deceived workers who voted in support and who will now be losing their jobs!
 
Agree with you on the fat cat thing Alan, the trouble with the U.K. is you have to be labelled or pidgin holed or you don’t exist,I have many friends from all walks of life colour creed and religion but I still don’t agree that open borders (I do believe in immigration) is any good for an economy it just means that who ever is doing the best has to fight of the influx it’s a system that can never work,yep 70’s was ridiculous, but I will never be ashamed of what my grandfather and his brothers,one of which died at 16 in the war, (I assure you I am not right wing) did for this country.
I personally would like to stay in but after seeing how the european “elite” has behaved towards a country that has exercised its democratic right I’m not sure I want to be part of it.....
 
Was already aware that 303 squadron shot down more enemy planes in the Battle of Britain than any other.

Polish squadrons accounted for around 10% (250) enemy shot down. whilst i applaud their contribution, David Stirling and his newly formed SAS accounted for around the same amount destroyed on the ground in North Africa (1941-42).
 

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