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After a bit of advice/clarification re 18[SUP]th[/SUP] edition of the regulation.
Firstly a bit of background, having a lot of work done on a 70's bungalow for my mother in law, altering the layout, lounge/dinner to a kitchen/dinner with separate lounge, new bath room, new external oil boiler and included a complete rewire.
There have been a few points raised by the electrician of which I found a bit strange.
He wanted to move the meter and I said no as it is fine where it is and I did not want to fall foul of any of the supply company regulations.
I wanted one double pole switch for the oven (Total connected load 3.68KW) and the hob (Total connected load 2.99KW) and he wanted two, both are well within 2 meters of the switch position I had in mind. The reasoning here is glass splash backs and the less holes the better a each hole adds to the cost.

Earth bonding to the water main he wanted the stop cock under the kitchen sink as he said “that’s where they go” and I have opted for a remote (Surestop) one which is plastic and the incoming pipe is plastic, and only picks up copper under the bathroom floor. The reason for picking a remote one is that in the event of a leak an elderly person would have problems with the older brass tap never mind getting to it. Does this earth connection need to be assessable? It is going to be under the floor in an area that is not readily accessible as it will be tiled.
The new main CU is having all RCBOs fitted so I’m thinking that any supplementary bonding is only precautionary rather than a requirement.

Garage supply in armored cable not a problem there and I was going to use a plastic garage CU but he said he would have a problem with the termination but I thought what’s wrong with a metal box along side the CU for the termination of the armored cable.

Any comments welcome good or bad and have I missed anything I need to be aware of.

Rob
 
OP why have you appointed an electrician only to ask yourself who is making sure the said electrician is carrying out his work in accordance with BS7671?

The regulations are open to interpretation by qualified electricians so IMO you should listen to the guy who you have decided to employ as his name will be on the certification not anyone elses.............
 
OP why have you appointed an electrician only to ask yourself who is making sure the said electrician is carrying out his work in accordance with BS7671?

The regulations are open to interpretation by qualified electricians so IMO you should listen to the guy who you have decided to employ as his name will be on the certification not anyone elses.............

Thats assuming a certificate and Part P are part of the plan!
 
Where did the assumption that the spark is a muppet for attempting to move 70 year old PILS come from? Surely the objective was to move the service head to make things easier? Presumably if it were split concentric or similar it wouldn't be too difficult to unscrew the board and move it a couple of feet; not that I'd know - I've moved fewer service heads than pulled DNO fuses.
 
my main concern would be the fact that he would not be insured should anything go wrong when he was moving something that he is not authorised to. looking into the future, should somebody inadvertently dig into that incoming cable and be killed or injured, DNO could disclaim responsibility as it was moved from where they had originally installed it.
 
I asked the question of moving a meter of the supplier and this is their response:

“You are indeed correct in thinking that an electrician cannot move a meter nor any supply cables. The reason for this is that the meter and any supply cables are the responsibility of the distribution company and therefore the owner of the meter. If a meter has been moved by a third party who is not the distribution company then it is classed as tampering and the distributor is within their rights to bring legal action against the property owner.
In addition to this, when moving a meter the distribution company will have the power to isolate the property's supply and make it completely safe before any work is carried out. The work will then have to be checked to regulator standard guidelines so that you can be assured that the work has been carried out properly.
If a seal is broken on the main fuse, it is again the responsibility of the distributor. Generally, if a broken seal is spotted by a meter reader, they will either replace the seal or request a job to have it replaced. this is not a chargeable job and having a broken seal does not constitute tampering in the way that removing a meter does.”

What is interesting they say they are within their rights to bring legal action against the property owner not the person who moved it. They may well turn a blind eye but the electrician is not the one facing prosecution but could be caught up in the legal case if he said it was ok and did it.
All it takes is one "jobs worth" to apply the letter of the law!
 

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