Ring final circuit vs Radial final circuit

[kevster]

there was talk of the ring final circuit being done away with when the 17th edition was being drafted but nothing, maybe its on the cards for the near future, the rest of europe are on radials with DP breakers i believe

 

[lawsonium]

Hello Matt,
I would suggest that you post this as I new thread starter as this is all getting a bit long winded and off topic.(but you should be bringing things up to 17th spec if you are doing major renovations at this time)

True, I will do later today hopefully, thanks. (Sorry for hyjacking this thread )

Matt.

 

[jimwee79]

Jesus none of you came up with the most obvious answer. if you get a fault on a ring it is a lot harder to find than on a radial. I aint even gonna explain why unless somebody asks but it`s pretty simple if you just apply a little common sense.

 

[ian.settle1]

Jesus none of you came up with the most obvious answer. if you get a fault on a ring it is a lot harder to find than on a radial. I aint even gonna explain why unless somebody asks but it`s pretty simple if you just apply a little common sense.

Why? the only difference between them is the extra leg back to the board.

 

[jimwee79]

Think if you have a fault on a ring you still have 2 live ends to test and a lot of live skts. where as on a radial wherever ur break is all skts thereafter are dead.

 

[Tokyo Joe]

...so, whats the negative aspects of a ring cct? Apart from more cable clips.

Don't forget the aspect of.......... Diy ers... kitchen fitters etc ....... cocking up ring mains over the years
As I have seen on lots of occasions.......... Then try to solve it !..... at least it is really hard to cock up a radial
Ps I am A 4.00mm radial fan !!! ....... So much easier to work with ... forget the cost !!!

 

[Mac]

Don't forget the aspect of.......... Diy ers... kitchen fitters etc ....... cocking up ring mains over the years
As I have seen on lots of occasions.......... Then try to solve it !..... at least it is really hard to cock up a radial
Ps I am A 4.00mm radial fan !!! ....... So much easier to work with ... forget the cost !!!

I did post something a while back,can't find it at the mo.Do away with rings and just use 4mm radials.The way to go

 

[leekemp85]

If for example you were rewiring a house would you still use the same method with the 4mm radial (kitchen, down stairs and up stairs) for the power circuits or would there be more circuit ie one circuits per room

 

[Mac]

If for example you were rewiring a house would you still use the same method with the 4mm radial (kitchen, down stairs and up stairs) for the power circuits or would there be more circuit ie one circuits per room

Kitchen on it's own circuit,rest of downstairs and upstairs on it's own circuits.Upstairs and downstairs circuits literally use nothing.

 

[supertoad]

a 16 A radial is easier to test /run/and idiot proof for uncle bill the was an electrician for the years ago and diy using the home electrics books. most important it allows seperation of cks for customer conveniance in case of a fault, its basicly foolfroof, for plugs 2xrad + kitchen+lts is enough for av 3bed flat-most important-cant make a ring a hazard-cable run up to 30 m no problems

 

[Andy78]

Really ?

 

[Guest55]

holy freakin thread resurection !!!!!!!!!
lol.

 

[supertoad]

4mm rad ideal in gally kitchens where kitchen fitters/etc need all high load appliances on one leg of a 2.5 mm ring /or any other kitchen

 

[supertoad]

yes!!!!!

 

[supertoad]

yes! and the rest-potential disaster