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Big n Daft

Right ho chaps and chapesses,
Its time rat out the rubbish. What have you used recently that has been complete and utter poo.
Lets start with anything that has Proteus on the label, and there is some completely useless swa cable out there as well. You know the stuff, its like a coiled spring sitting on the drum waiting to snare you at first pull.
 
CEF price juggling between counter and invoice. Oh, sorry, this is cr*p products. CEF own brand then LMAO! Anything with Homebase, Ikea, B&Q or Next on it. Plastic anything that's so fragile it splits when you touch it.
 
Just had one of those days so my list is:

Products that don't have captive screws;
The cross head screws in Chinese imports that do not fit any known screwdriver so you have striped the head getting them out before trying to refit them;
The screws made of grey cheese that strip the head or shear off as soon as you look at them, usually supplied with Chinese imports;
Enclosures without bus bar, neutral lead, lables and any instructions saying what BS standard they are manufactured to but they do have a neutral and earth bar!;
Box sinkers with little Allen bolts that fall out all the time;
Choc box type connectors with a nice ledge inside so that multi core or flex pushes at least one of the strands back, assuming you can get them in in the first place;
Consumer units that can take 25mm tails in the switch but with no room to bend/fit them unless you drill holes to allow them to come straight in;
Flimsily consumer units and RCBs that threaten to break if you try to use 25mm tails;
Accessories that have a shroud in front of the connector too small to allow more than one insulated wire to be pushed in so you have to have bare copper at the entrance to the shroud;
20mm plastic conduit fittings that cannot cover a 20mm hole;
Consumer units with levels that are not level;
MCB, RCDs etc with a very short cable clamp so the cable can fall out very easily, especially 25mm tails!
Light fittings that you have to hold up, they are usually heavy, with one hand while trying to get the connections into the ****** choc box connectors with the other two hands;
Line bus bars without any shrouding;
Plastic accessories with knockouts that are just a little larger than 20mm so you have to use silicon (ugh) to seal them.

Have I missed any accessory/fitting off my list as I seem to have problems with most modern fittings even the more expensive ones. I have not named names as I would be here all night and end up being sued by nearly every supplier in the UK.

I have not had any problems with Wagos, Wago boxes and Ashley MF free junction boxes. There are probably lots of other things that I would like, I just never seem to find them.

Since seeing the posting about fake CE marking I have noticed fake CE marks on a number of products that claim to have BS certification!
 
Control Gear CCU's - had one the other day with two separate faults. Rcd cable screw wouldn't tighten up and Mcb would not hold in the 'latched-on' position. Shocking quality control no excuses and it cost me 1.5hrs wasted time getting replacements. Won't be using Control Gear again as this is not the first breaker issues I've had!
 
good thread, just about to buy a Proteck TP&N board, the wholesaler reckons British manufactured, think not now cheers

I've always found protek stuff to be good. Use the switch fuses now rather than the bigger names as there's load of room for cables and at a good price.

Don't mix up Proteus and Protek,
 
Just been reading this thread. I have come across many products and materials that at first glance look good but end up being a total waste of money.
One thing I have used recently is 'patress' screws (otherwise known as raised head machine screws) from Thorsman ! ... the heads are total C**P ... the slots are not made deep enough or the head is domed too much.
I have yet to complete a full list of items that I can safely rely on for continued use. I agree with another poster on here that maybe there should be a thread with products that ARE good .

Some items that I use that I find well made and are worth using....

Hager CU's and mcb's (BG look like Hager but have not used any yet)
Fischer rawplugs
Wago connectors
Line connectors/enclosures
Spax screws
Crabtree accessories
Fluke case for my Megger MFT
Prysmian cable

I will endeavour to keep adding to my 'good' list but by the time I get everything I need I will be retired. Oh! and when they stop making things in China ... totally C**P now.
 
anything made in the p.r.c
junction boxes instead of brass screws they are monkey metal with a sprayed on coating
had a few arc out on jobs
rubbish plastic trunking that shatters when you try to trim it
6amp mcbs from a certain well known old manufacture that trip out when you do a zs test
and poxy terminals that break off in switches and sockets


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ANYTHING MADE IN THE P.R.C
JUNCTION BOXES INSTEAD OF BRASS SCREWS THEY ARE MONKEY METAL WITH A SPRAYED ON COATING
HAD A FEW ARC OUT ON JOBS
RUBBISH PLASTIC TRUNKING THAT SHATTERS WHEN YOU TRY TO TRIM IT
6AMP MCBS FROM A CERTAIN WELL KNOWN OLD MANUFACTURE THAT TRIP OUT WHEN YOU DO A ZS TEST
AND POXY TERMINALS THAT BREAK OFF IN SWITCHES AND SOCKETS
 
ANYTHING MADE IN THE P.R.C
JUNCTION BOXES INSTEAD OF BRASS SCREWS THEY ARE MONKEY METAL WITH A SPRAYED ON COATING
HAD A FEW ARC OUT ON JOBS
RUBBISH PLASTIC TRUNKING THAT SHATTERS WHEN YOU TRY TO TRIM IT
6AMP MCBS FROM A CERTAIN WELL KNOWN OLD MANUFACTURE THAT TRIP OUT WHEN YOU DO A ZS TEST
AND POXY TERMINALS THAT BREAK OFF IN SWITCHES AND SOCKETS

haha!! ...We used to say exactly the same thing about Japanese goods, when they first started exporting to the West!! How things change!! lol!!

Thing is, when you buy cheap, cheap, what do you really expect from those goods??
 

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