strict sites

[Dean Williams]

has anyone worked on really strict sites

im currently testing on the largest site ive ever worked on in Runcorn, where 'whistleblowers' are rewarded with offers of flat screen tellies, meal vouchers etc. There's been 2 strikes so far...

 

[telectrix]

should have asked the horse. still have got a "neigh".

 

[UNG]

Late afternoon we were asked to stack light fittings upstairs in a building we were second fixing so we daisy chained a few lads and were passing them between us. I was on a half landing about a metre above floor level.
H&S ---- ordered me to put a harness on, gave me the choice between getting one on or being kicked off site.
How I laughed a few days later when I saw him wandering about the site with his hard hat on back to front.

Makes me laugh how many H&S bods don't understand the mechanics of some of the PPE and blindly advise it's use just using a harness does not make it any safer unless the correct lanyard or work positioning / restraint system is used.
If the H&S guy can't wear the PPE correctly what hope is there I think I would have had a go at him

decorator pal worked on the daddy of all tight check jobs............

Ashworth maximum security loony hospital - home to charles bronson , ian brady and the jamie bulger killers.

no eye contact with the inmates ! gulp.

Went in there to look at a job that needed pricing once decided the job wasn't worth the grief of the security checks getting in and out and actually working


Did a job about 12 years ago that we needed to use rope access to clip some cables down a gantry at the side of a cement silo as the site had some major construction works going on at the time the main contractor took on the H&S even though we were directly employed by the site owner, the H&S guys didn't like the idea of us abseiling and offered us allsorts of access equipment which I challenged as I considered the ground around the area as unmade and of dubious quality due to the amount of spoil dumped there in the end I asked the senior guy if his reluctance to us abseiling was that he had no knowledge of it and therefore had to bow to our greater knowledge and accept that he could not supervise it or call into question any of the procedures used he duly admitted this and told us to get on with it

 

[Silly Sausage]

Being a wage slave, I don't care about how long it takes to get Permits to Work etc, I'm still getting paid!
As for run of the mill PPE, I don't mind, it'll be my body that gets screwed if I don't use it. Do you think the powers that be, will lose a wink of sleep if I got injured by not wearing safety specs (for example), would they ----!

This is from my experience from working on Chemical plants where there is some nasty stuff, so it does make a lot of sense!

 

[Lucien Nunes]

There's a world of difference between strict controls being used where special risks exist, and the same measures being implemented blindly where they aren't necessary. Isn't it odd that the very people who get employed to work out which is which, seem to have trouble telling the difference?

 

[shanky887614]

Being a wage slave, I don't care about how long it takes to get Permits to Work etc, I'm still getting paid!
As for run of the mill PPE, I don't mind, it'll be my body that gets screwed if I don't use it. Do you think the powers that be, will lose a wink of sleep if I got injured by not wearing safety specs (for example), would they ----!

This is from my experience from working on Chemical plants where there is some nasty stuff, so it does make a lot of sense!

true that, we all make our own risk asessments and methods of work as we go along.

you dont hold onto an adaptable box with your hand on the floor while drilling it do you?

the h&s guys should be after site safety e.g. floors up, falling objects.

i doubt any of you would complain if you were asked to wear them while people were working directly above you.

 

[Knobhead]

Being a wage slave, I don't care about how long it takes to get Permits to Work etc, I'm still getting paid!
As for run of the mill PPE, I don't mind, it'll be my body that gets screwed if I don't use it. Do you think the powers that be, will lose a wink of sleep if I got injured by not wearing safety specs (for example), would they ----!

This is from my experience from working on Chemical plants where there is some nasty stuff, so it does make a lot of sense!

Archy, we had to understand the process so knowing the nasties was part and parcel of the job. Some of our nasties were carcinogenic, if we had to work on them there’s no objection to being fully suited and booted. The down side, we couldn’t get contractors to work on the kit, we had to do it ourselves.

Someone going in as a contractor may see our caution as a hindrance. Believe it or not, the systems are there to help keep you alive.

I can’t see what the OP is carping about.

 

[telectrix]

wearing ppe that's required to safeguard against hazards is common sense. blindly following some muppet's rules is not. e.g. wearing a hard hat when working in an office with nothing hazardous above:

 

[Silly Sausage]

There is a serious flaw in PPE and that the HSE are missing, I could never find Scouse protective gear.

 

[telectrix]

that's because it's too obvious for a manc. your women are your scouse ppe. one look at them and any self respecting scouser will run a mile.

 

[rapparee]

In my place of work there is actually a diagram in the bogs explaining how to wash your hands

 

[Silly Sausage]

Now come on now, explain to me, in simple terms, how the ---- do you put up with scouser womens gobs?
Answers involving male genitalia are not acceptable.

 

[dingledong]

, I could never find Scouse protective gear.

It's called a condom I think

 

[Fin170]

In my place of work there is actually a diagram in the bogs explaining how to wash your hands

Common in clinical or clean room conditions, if you can do the test with the glow in the dark gel & black light you'll see how easy it is to miss huge areas without putting loads of thought into it



Anyway I'm not fussed how strict the rules are, keeps the employer happy and keeps me paid longer. I'm especially gutted when I get paid to go on courses for asbestos, IPAF, harness, medicals etc :lol:

 

[chris murphy]

"Hello All",

After reading through this tread I thought I should resurrect one of my Posts about a `BAD Day` on Site !

Here is what I wrote:


QUOTE:

• Hello All,
  
  I have just been reading in the `Installer ` Magazine [Gas / Heating / Plumbing & some Electrical etc.] about a Day at Work in 2008 on a Construction Project where an Argon Gas Cylinder which was `stored` with 79 others fell over and the Valve snapped off the top of the Cylinder - the Cylinders were NOT fitted with Valve Safety Caps.
  
  The Argon Gas - under 300 BAR Pressure [approx. 4410 PSI] propelled the Cylinder into the others which were just standing together [not in storage racks] - this set of a `Chain reaction` where 66 of the Cylinders `Flew` around and `THROUGH` the Building at speeds of up to 170 Miles per Hour.
  
  
  These 66 `Torpedoes` were obviously Heavy [2 Metres tall and weighed 142 Kilos !] - and Fast enough [170 mph] to smash through walls and up through Ceilings - this is on a Large Site with loads of Trades / Men working there.
  
  
  This `Havoc` was stated to have lasted several Minutes - can You imagine trying to Escape from this area within a large Building with these 2 Metre long x 142 Kilo x 170 mph `torpedoes` smashing through walls and up through ceilings around You - !
  
  This looks to have been even worse for those in the immediate area of the `devastation` because the Walls seem to be just partition construction [from article photo] which obviously would offer NO Protection from these `Flying Gas Cylinders` !
  
  
  Some of the Cylinders were stated to have ended up `in remote parts of the Building` !
  
  
  
  Unfortunately a Plumber was killed by one of these `missiles` and others including some Electricians were seriously injured.
  
  
  The reason that this is in the Magazine now is that the Court case has recently been adjudicated and `Fines and Costs` levied on the 3 Companies who were supposed to have ensured that the Gas Cylinder Safe storage and other Safety Regulations were adhered to.
  
  
  
  HERE IS A LINK TO THE FULL ARTICLE:
  
  Three firms sentenced after plumber dies | Installer Online
  
  
  I thought that this would interest some Members - it just shows what can happen at Work on a large Construction Project.
  
  Regards,
  
  Chris
  
  ​

END OF QUOTE


There is an Extreme example of what can happen when Health & Safety Regulations are NOT adhered to - in this case relating to the Storage of the Gas Cylinders - not in Cages or Racks / and not using Safety Caps on the Valves etc.


I thought that it might be of interest to Members who did not see it when I first posted the message.


Regards,

Chris

 

[Silly Sausage]

In my place of work there is actually a diagram in the bogs explaining how to wash your hands

I suspect that wasn't the same diagram that was on Cammell Lairds bog wall in Birkenhead.

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