Surely there must be a Reg against this?!

[SSE]

My neighbour has put up a large garage that sits alongside his house but not joined to it. He asked me to wire & fit out lights inside & sockets as well. Told him he needs to get SWA to supply it as he was insisting on runnning the supply in (save money I assume) & for some reason (mainly cos he's tight) he's went & put a plastic pipe from the house to the garage & run a 10mm twin & earth & a 10mm earth through it!! It looks rough as & to be honest I'm pretty annoyed as the cable was going to be run underground to in ducting to supply it. He's adamant he's leaving it like that unless he's breaking any rules! Anyone help?!?! If there's Reg that's not being complied with he'd have no option than to do it the way I said!

 

[bugsy]

tell him your happy to utilise his install - It makes you smile when leaving for work and again when you get home,

 

[bartkusal]

If you want for the regs on that conduit, look for conduit support spacings, looks like you have about 2 m run with no supports(no compliant), then white pvc is not good in sunlight(not sure about regs on this one), and then I see this conduit being a good support for some numpty doing pullups.

 

[malcolmsanford]

If you want for the regs on that conduit, look for conduit support spacings, looks like you have about 2 m run with no supports(no compliant), then white pvc is not good in sunlight(not sure about regs on this one), and then I see this conduit being a good support for some numpty doing pullups.

I think you find that is part of the OSG and not the regulations

 

[Rockingit]

If you want for the regs on that conduit, look for conduit support spacings, looks like you have about 2 m run with no supports(no compliant), then white pvc is not good in sunlight(not sure about regs on this one), and then I see this conduit being a good support for some numpty doing pullups.

Looks like 2" waste pipe to me, a totally different animal.

 

[SSE]

1 more question regarding this damn garage again!! Right carried out the swa/ducting plan. Obviously he'd already measured off the 10mm earth so I had just run it in with my swa, anyway the garage door has a steel frame down each side, bolted to the wall, sitting on very small wooden stilts then onto concrete, this is going to need bonded I assume but the 10mm earth only goes a far as the garage cu, is the bond to be continuous from the house or is from the garage cu to the steel adequate? Last question on this subject, I promise.lol.

 

[Des 56]

Not read entire thread,so sorry if this is a numpty question,but with bonding in mind.

A new 6.omm swa has been run with an additional seperate 10 mm earth cable for bonding ?

Why did you not just upsize the swa to 10mm ?

 

[SSE]

Not read entire thread,so sorry if this is a numpty question,but with bonding in mind.

A new 6.omm swa has been run with an additional seperate 10 mm earth cable for bonding ?

Why did you not just upsize the swa to 10mm ?

Pretty sure if it was a 10mm SWA would still need a seperate earth for bonding no? Unless used the armour as an earth I suppose. Also the guy is tight as anything, every penny a prisoner so he wasn't wanting anything he didn't have to.

 

[monkeyelectric]

Have you checked to see if the frame needs bonding?

 

[Des 56]

A 10mm 3 core would have been approx £1-50 per meter extra cost compared to 6.0mm 2 core and negate the need for a seperate earth bonding cable

 

[SSE]

Have you checked to see if the frame needs bonding?

I'm not actually 100% sure it needs bonding as it's sitting on small bits of wood each side, it's not sunk into concrete into the ground so it's not a clear path to ground, although dampness etc could change this. One of my mates is home from the rigs next week going to have a look to see what he thinks, he's a good bit more experienced than I am. My normal line of work until recently was mainly maintenance you see, not many new installations. Is there a test I can do to see if it needs bonding.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

1 more question regarding this damn garage again!! Right carried out the swa/ducting plan. Obviously he'd already measured off the 10mm earth so I had just run it in with my swa, anyway the garage door has a steel frame down each side, bolted to the wall, sitting on very small wooden stilts then onto concrete, this is going to need bonded I assume but the 10mm earth only goes a far as the garage cu, is the bond to be continuous from the house or is from the garage cu to the steel adequate? Last question on this subject, I promise.lol.

nothing to say that the 10mm bonding you have extended.....cant also be the PME that you export....in other words....just take the 10mm into the sub boards MET....then out to extranious....

 

[SSE]

Thanks Glennspark.

Regarding bonding, Am I right in thinking that by getting my wandering lead & going between the steelwork and the met, then after pulling the fuse, if I do an IR this values should tell me if it needs it or not, if I can remember correctly it's anything over 22k or 23k ohms means it doesn't need bonded??

 

[monkeyelectric]

Anything less than 22 k ohms needs bonding

 

[SSE]

Anything less than 22 k ohms needs bonding

Cheers. So just pull the house fuse, do the IR then take it from there if it needs bonded or not...

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Cheers. So just pull the house fuse, do the IR then take it from there if it needs bonded or not...

????
your conductin the test that monkey has told you at #58 between exposed and extranious conductive parts...
so whats the bullit got to do with it?...