The Future of Fuse boards...?

[Dustydazzler]

Looks nice

 

[westward10]

The non-combustible enclosure or cabinet must provide a complete envelope (e.g. base,
cover, door and any components such as hinges, screws and catches) as necessary to
maintain fire containment.

Sealing of wiring entries
It is important for the installer to seal all openings into the enclosure or cabinet for cables,
conduits, trunking or ducting that remain after the installation of cables. See Figure 6.
The intent of the sealing is that, as far as is reasonably practicable, any fire is contained
within the enclosure or cabinet and the escape of flames to the surroundings of the cabinet or
enclosure or into conduits trunking or ducting is minimised, as intended by Regulation
421.1.201.
Good workmanship and proper materials must be used, and account must be taken of the
manufacturer’s relevant instructions, if any




Your opinion obviously differs from the IET who are involved in actually writing the regs to which you quote.

Can you quote where in that Regulation it cites any of this.

 

[mainline]

Can you quote where in that Regulation it cites any of this.

Again, it's the IET

 

[westward10]

Again, it's the IET

No tell me where in that Regulation you are getting that all from.

 

[nicebutdim]

Are you worried your work is going to catch fire Brian ?

I get people's concerns, but this debate is theoretical (having been sparked by images from a studio set). It seems as though everyone involved is seeing something different in their mind's eye.

 

[mainline]

No tell me where in that Regulation you are getting that all from.

From a publication by the IET.

 

[Dave OCD]

I get people's concerns, but this debate is theoretical (having been sparked by images from a studio set). It seems as though everyone involved is seeing something different in their mind's eye.

I'd like to know the true figures for overheating Consumer Units resulting in the spread of fire in a home, there are many warning signs before that stage would be reached, in my view dodgy connections under floorboards or in lofts have resulted in far more fires over the years.

 

[westward10]

From a publication by the IET.

So you can't then because it doesn't.

 

[mainline]

So you can't then because it doesn't.

Are you saying that the IET didnt publish that ??

They clearly say :
The intent of the sealing is that, as far as is reasonably practicable, any fire is contained
within the enclosure or cabinet and the escape of flames to the surroundings of the cabinet or
enclosure or into conduits trunking or ducting is minimised, as intended by Regulation
421.1.201.

 

[Dave OCD]

From a publication by the IET.

The question is [as you know] where is all that written within BS7671.

 

[nicebutdim]

Are you saying that the IET didnt publish that ??

They clearly say :
The intent of the sealing is that, as far as is reasonably practicable, any fire is contained
within the enclosure or cabinet and the escape of flames to the surroundings of the cabinet or
enclosure or into conduits trunking or ducting is minimised, as intended by Regulation
421.1.201.

They did indeed state this in Special Edition II 2015 and nowhere else since that date - not even subsequent editions of The Wiring Regulations.

One might reasonably ask if this was their intent, why it was never included regulations?

 

[Pretty Mouth]

The problem with the IET is they contradict themselves. See the Q and A's of this article:

Consumer units: a brief overview

There are over twenty million domestic dwellings in the UK and each has an electrical installation, usually with electricity meter and consumer unit arrangement supplying the lighting and power in the dwelling. There are numerous fires in domestic dwellings every year, many due to electrical...

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Very confusing.

 

[westward10]

Are you saying that the IET didnt publish that ??

They clearly say :
The intent of the sealing is that, as far as is reasonably practicable, any fire is contained
within the enclosure or cabinet and the escape of flames to the surroundings of the cabinet or
enclosure or into conduits trunking or ducting is minimised, as intended by Regulation
421.1.201.

At no point did I suggest this so can you show where in that Regulation or anywhere in BS7671 is any of that stated.

 

[mainline]

The question is [as you know] where is all that written within BS7671.

It's obviously their interpretation of the quoted reg by the people who actually wrote it.

At no point did I suggest this so can you show where in that Regulation or anywhere in BS7671 is any of that stated.

I am simply quoting what they said, I suggest you take it up with them instead of trying to give me the 3rd degree

 

[nicebutdim]

It's obviously their interpretation of the quoted reg by the people who actually wrote it.

I am simply quoting what they said, I suggest you take it up with them instead of trying to give me the 3rd degree

You're quoting from an interview with someone who helped write BS7671 and not a consensus among the many people involved.

Since one individual espoused this view in 2015, there have been a number of subsequent editions of wiring regulations in which it could have been included. That it hasn't been included might be an indication of others not being in agreement. No matter, it seems odd that such clarification (if that's what we're taking it to be) has been omitted from successive editions - if indeed the IET's position was ever such.

 

[westward10]

It's obviously their interpretation of the quoted reg by the people who actually wrote it.

I am simply quoting what they said, I suggest you take it up with them instead of trying to give me the 3rd degree

I am a member of the IET and totally disagree with it.