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Whats everyone's take on this, turned up today to start a re-wire and yet again there wasn't any toilet on the job so we ring the builder and he wasn't interested, we offered to pay for a portaloo if he gets it dropped off but he said tough, you either go home or go to a shop.

So obviously we packed everything up and left the job, we've now brought forward our next job and are starting it tomorrow so even if he relents and gets a toilet we can't do anything for 3 or 4 weeks and that's if we even want to go back.

I just don't get it, why would someone want to go to all the trouble of finding someone else, getting them to re-price it, waiting for them to have an available slot and still have the possibility that they won't start without a toilet anyway. Or they could just pay ÂŁ28 per week and have toilet facilities on the job. Its madness.
 
This made me think about facilities on sites and I've never been able to fathom why painters turn up with a range of kitchen appliances. Rare for them to not have a kettle and I've met several who lug a microwave to every job. A few sandwiches and a thermal cup filled with coffee always seemed perfectly adequate to me.
Reminds me of the truckers I've seen in service areas on the continent. A couple of the side lockers converted into fully equipped pull out kitchens, with full blown complex meals being cooked and enjoyed.
 
As far as I can remember, I've never worked on a job in my entire career that had toilet facilities other than what was already permanently on site.
The most memorable was a loo in Brittany, that we named Hissing Sid. The cistern was an air filled cylinder that was bottom fed by water directly from the mains, which was far from low pressure. The water entered by a one way valve and simply compressed the air in the cylinder, replacing it with water, until equilibrium was reached. It would constantly hiss and groan in response to small changes in water pressure which is where the nickname came from.
The loo was flushed by a lever operated valve on the 'J' pipe connecting cistern to loo, and the discharge was so violent that, if the unwary just pushed the lever fully open, the flush water would curl around the bottom of the bowl, up and out, and hit the ceiling, taking most of the contents of the bowl with it.
 
Not to sure what the weight limit is, but even has a toilet roll holder...
 

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I dont get all this cook your own food, bring sandwiches/flask etc to work every day. I've tried it all and it just doesn't pay. You still stop for lunch whether you eat your own sandwiches or go to a shop and eat them so there isn't any time saved, usually you call in at a shop on the way to the wholesalers so its not even a special journey. Yes it saves money and with todays prices you could probably save ÂŁ5 a day making them but it took me about 15 minutes every morning to make the sandwiches, fill a flask etc. It was such a waste of time that I would have gladly paid someone that ÂŁ5 to make them for me.
And the amount of times that I came home with a full flask because I was too busy in the day to drink it meant that it either went down the drain or I had 4 cups of coffee in the evening and was then wide awake all night, total waste of time in my opinion.

I bring a mug of coffee & sandwiches for a very simple reason - half the time I might be miles from a shop and the other half it's more hassle than it's worth going to one and maybe not getting parked close to the job again.
 
It seems by the odd reply on here that some people are happy to pee in a grid or dump into a bucket. Can I put it this way, building work isn't cheap for the homeowner, you regularly read posts about customers complaining that a price was ÂŁ50k or more than they thought, builders don't do stuff on the cheap, they certainly aren't doing the job for buttons. Asking for a toilet isn't a challenging thing to do for them either, they just pick up the phone and one is dropped off a couple of hours later, it takes 5 minutes of their time, they could even delegate if they feel more important. toilets are ÂŁ28 a week, they could even leave the old one in or get the plumber to put a temporary one in, not too dificult to arrange either.

So at the end of the day, they expect me to ---- in a bucket so they can save ÂŁ28 a week on a ÂŁ100k job. Would you really do that for them?
 

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