Too late for building control?

[robsparx]

I may be in a slightly sticky situation. Before i start, i dont reccomend doing what I've done, as i understand it you should ALWAYS notify building control BEFORE you start a job if youre not registered to self certify


I had a rewire thrust upon me a few weeks ago when i was unemployed, so obviously i bit the guys hand off, and got to work straight away. I did'nt really think straight away about how i was going to Part P it.

I have nearly finished it now, and have arranged an ELECSA assessment for early june. But i have since found out that the house is being sold, and the deal is done and they have set the completion date for 2 days after my Part P assessment. So i am understandably more nervous about passing the assessment, and i'm not sure that even if i pass that the client will get the relevant documents in time?

Would it be too late to call out building control and get the to sign it off? The re wire is nearly finished, but its a totally empty house, so i can lift up floorboards etc showing my cable runs, and you can see exactly where i have run cables in the walls.

This is my own fault, i should have got building control involved straight away, even if the client didnt like the sound of the price

 

[telectrix]

so, if an extension subject to planning is inspected as part of that planning control at no extra cost, why then ( on a job i know of ) did labc insist on test/inspection by a scheme member before signing the job off? ) and that is in addition to passing 300mm of fibreglass insulation packed around and over halogen downlights.

 

[LABCman]

Any electrical work by a competent person forming part of an extension in our area would not be subject to an additional charge however we will insist on inspecting the first fix and having a good look at the test results. Since October 2010 some local authorities may charge for that as we could do for DIYer doing electrical work (we don't actually charge for the DIY electrical work). Electrical work in relation to extensions and erection of new dwellings is not considered to be self certifying work as it is part of the whole and not just electrical work and since BC sign off the extension as a unit and not less certain elements it should be inspected by building control

 

[telectrix]

so, in that case i mentioned, why did labc not inspect the 1st fix when inspector was on site. also could have inspected after 2nd fix as all wiring was clipped and accessible. and why did they say that the planning charge would be more if a non-scheme member was doing the installation. ?

 

[RWJ]

Nobody pointed out that a criminal offence was committed in the first instance.

I think I read somewhere that it's a criminal offence for woman to wear trousers....... That seems about as enforced as Part P

Not that I have the "PART P" qualification (EAL DI Cert)...

 

[edrobbo8]

Advising the installer to wait until he is accepted by his competent persons scheme is no answer as the work was carried out before qualification i.e. outside the scope of any competent persons scheme.


The best advice would be to approach the local authority building control ask for a 'Regularisation', pay your fee and have the work inspected and signed off. In my office that process would take about three days start to finish. If we caught someone falsifying inspection records we would prosecute and the courts are very unfiendly to electricians caught cheating.

Well I had a similar situation on a rewire in March, phoned BC to notify them of starting work, and mentioned I was waiting for a date for my ELECSA assessment. They had no idea at all about inspecting the work after 1st fix, let alone getting someone in to test it if I failed my assessment. Some BCs are totally useless and seem to be a load of desk operators, with no experience in any part of construction, bring on the cuts!

 

[electromonkey]

Where do you live Robsparx? Someone on here may be able to help you out. Also, phone ELECSA and let them know the the situation, you never know, someone may have to postpone their site assessment prior to yours so you could ask them to put you on a standby list.

 

[RWJ]

Where do you live Robsparx? Someone on here may be able to help you out. Also, phone ELECSA and let them know the the situation, you never know, someone may have to postpone their site assessment prior to yours so you could ask them to put you on a standby list.

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[Mr.Si]

This is an interesting thread to me too, as I will be in this boat too - doing the work myself in my own house, using it for ELECSA assessment, so I will report what happened to me (I'm under Adur District Council). I'm also interested to know when LABCs would need to be paid - up front or once it's complete, or if it varies.

Edit: I welcome the membership of a LABC employee - nice to have words from both sides of the fence, so to speak.

 

[robsparky1975]

I done a consumer unit change last year,prior to enrolling with elecsa,so had to pay labc £65 prior to job commencement,had to show them copies of all my certs,9 months went by and they didnt even bother to go and check anything,not that it matters to me,why did they take money for nothing?are the govt thinking about a change of part p.

 

[electromonkey]

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Robsparx last logged in 28-04-2011

LOL I hope the solicitors aren't still waiting for the cert!

 

[electromonkey]

This is an interesting thread to me too, as I will be in this boat too - doing the work myself in my own house, using it for ELECSA assessment, so I will report what happened to me (I'm under Adur District Council). I'm also interested to know when LABCs would need to be paid - up front or once it's complete, or if it varies.

Edit: I welcome the membership of a LABC employee - nice to have words from both sides of the fence, so to speak.

You don't need to pay your LABC anything. You've notified them that work is taking place. You can notify the work when you pass your assessment (even if you don't pass first time).

 

[Engineer54]

You don't need to pay your LABC anything. You've notified them that work is taking place. You can notify the work when you pass your assessment (even if you don't pass first time).

Does anyone ''Fail'' then????

 

[electromonkey]

You have an on site assessment to enable you to join a registration scheme. If the person assessing you deems you competent to self certify then you have "passed" that assessment, if they don't, then you have "failed" it or have I misunderstood something?

 

[Spudnik]

Most "fails" arent really fails.

They are non conformances and they will require proof that these have been rectified before they issue you with your membership details.

Unless of course someone is really out of touch, and in which case it will be a fail and a re-assessment will need to be booked.

 

[DaveyD]

Does anyone ''Fail'' then????

I seem to remember someone posting that they had to have a re-assesment and pay the fee as they did not provide RCD protection for an extra kitchen spur.
Will see if I can find - but don't hold your breath.
Regards, Dave