Total Trade Services - Wales

[liam b]

Just wondering if anyone has heard of total trade services?

anyone worked for them or with them?

good or bad experience?

cheers

 

[jim1976]

only just 3 months but i can't work out the pay anyway so don't no about that but i make a fair bit in other ways of them

 

[AngelFX]

seems a bit strange you cant answer what i ask.....have you not received ANY pay???? if so does it match the amount of jobs you have done?? surely you have a wage slip????

 

[Elidor]

I believe there are systems in place which permit you to retain equipment and materials if you are owed money? Mechanics Lien is one of them. Not looked into it in any great detail but if they owe you money and you have their van and tools or other valuable assets playing this card may at least get them to pay you quick.

Mechanic's lien - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[sparky3366]

Its probably not their van as most of them are hired...
Besides, you will not get anything out of them for the first month from finishing, as the jobs you have done need to pass inspection by EAGA.

 

[Dan]

I believe there are systems in place which permit you to retain equipment and materials if you are owed money? Mechanics Lien is one of them. Not looked into it in any great detail but if they owe you money and you have their van and tools or other valuable assets playing this card may at least get them to pay you quick.

Mechanic's lien - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's an american thing, also known as a Carpenters Lien when it comes to work in houses. It doesn't apply here and we have nothing similar. Small claims or solicitors are out route.

 

[Elidor]

Mechanics Lien was covered in my coursework very briefly and is definitely used in the UK. The Wikipedia link I gave is a US definition. I did a search for UK Lien and came up with a lot of UK specific information....


Lien Law: Law & Property Solicitors / Lawyers in UK / London

 

[jim1976]

seems a bit strange you cant answer what i ask.....have you not received ANY pay???? if so does it match the amount of jobs you have done?? surely you have a wage slip????

yes i have had pay but didn't keep a record of what i have done so don't no if its right i have not had anything missing from my wages according to my pay slip. they have not given me much work anyway so not earnt a great deal. they have said work will improve in the next few weeks.

 

[CarlAVFC]

I am part of a plumber/gas engineer team who up until today worked for total trade. Have been told during a meeting today we are being made redundant aswell as many others. I understand there being no work but my greivance is I am owed wages for the past 9 months I have worked there!!! Each month I have been missing at least £250 from my pay. I contact the office to be told 'timesheets havent arrived or there not patying us for days weve waited outside plumb centre for them to fax us jobs which they always do around 5 o clock!!! ect..... but still never recieved what im owed. Numerous line managers have been 'sorting it' but even they have ended up being owed wages. If you work there now i suggest you prepare for redundancies and kissing goodbye to any wages owed. Cowboy company. Will be visiting trading standards

 

[jim1976]

I am part of a plumber/gas engineer team who up until today worked for total trade. Have been told during a meeting today we are being made redundant aswell as many others. I understand there being no work but my greivance is I am owed wages for the past 9 months I have worked there!!! Each month I have been missing at least £250 from my pay. I contact the office to be told 'timesheets havent arrived or there not patying us for days weve waited outside plumb centre for them to fax us jobs which they always do around 5 o clock!!! ect..... but still never recieved what im owed. Numerous line managers have been 'sorting it' but even they have ended up being owed wages. If you work there now i suggest you prepare for redundancies and kissing goodbye to any wages owed. Cowboy company. Will be visiting trading standards

i am waiting for the exit meeting, i was sacked sorry laid off last week given this week as hols and told i would receive a letter for the exit meeting and i would be paid in full then but not heard anything yet. if i don't get it i am going to wakefield office and getting it in person even if it means taking computers and selling them i will get it. they are a shambles out to rob everyone they can.
i made the mistake of giving them my van key when i arrived so they could do a van check (another load of crap ) if i had keeped i would have the van now so they would have no choice but to pay me

 

[oldAL]

I worked for them when they first started moving into the north west of England, about 6 or 7 yrs ago now,
was promised £95 for a combi, and more for a Y plan, and as many jobs as I could do in a week, 3 weeks in and I was only getting 3 jobs a week so I jacked,
rang them and told them to come collect the van and phone, the keys are in the post, I never got paid, and TBH I didnt care, just glad to get out when I did.

 

[londonlec]

Is that £95 with materials supplied? Plus full bonding?

 

[vaughant]

Oh dear,sounds a proper joke outfit,the job centre bit kind of gave it away,I've never even walked in one when I closed my business,seemed a pointless exercise.Sorry to hear that people lost money,sadly this goes on in all walks of life,particularly right now as jobs get scarce.In my old line of work I had to physically go and collect money from one company,it does help I'm a big lad(mainly flubber!!!!) but after a few choice words they did eventually pay.I've luckily never had to use these type of agents as my works a bit more specialized but it's very upsetting to see people get ripped off.On the note of scams be aware of people trying to put claims in against your company after you've closed it.An employers liability insurance company tried doing it to me (no names) and luckily I caught the lad red handed.What they do is if you close up,and this can be anyone,they try and lodge a claim with companies house saying you owe them x amount of money then if you have gone bust,the government gives them 10% of it back as a minimum.I know someone who's done this scam for years,even setting his own firms up and pocketing the cash.This lad tried it with me but unbeknown to him I simply closed my firm owing no debt so therefore they government were not involved.A debt recovery firm contacted me,typical cockney hardman on the phone to which I was able to produce plenty of info for him and he apologized and went on his way.I then got in touch with the insurance company lad who stupidly gave me his personal mobile number previously posing as a person looking to claim off the liability insurance and I was told he was the man to talk to.he proceeded to tell me all about how I'd left the business go bankrupt owing then thousands in premium(my premium was £600) and that if he ever came into personal contact with me him and his "surrey boys" would sort me out.Really?after a brief 5 seconds of me explaining that that wouldn't happen,that I knew where he worked,what car he drove(he'd previously told me),I had HIS mobile number and full name it was not going to be an issue if I drove up his way now with my mates in the car,to which I put one on the phone and unsurprisingly the "surrey boy" apologized profusely,I think he even had a little cry!!!Silly boy,doubt he tried that scam again.

 

[jim1976]

if i don't get my money i am willing to take it as far as i have to, they owe me over £1300 so not going to sit back and ignore it. going to start with calls to them then i will go to the wakefield office and face to face it where i will get paid one way or another

 

[AngelFX]

My team got finished for reasons only known to Trade. I work to regulations and gas safe standards and did not fail at my job like they tried to say, we also haven't had our exit interview a lot like Jim and we are owed cash.

My team can't do this alone we need all of you ex employees or employees who are disgruntled and know that their days are numbered to look back at the posts I have put on here and contact all of the numbers I supplied with regards to Trade Services, I have done so but as the only one nothing will get done, if we all contact these numbers one of them, hopefully watchdog, will pick us up and investigate it, as it stands unless you have worked for them for a year you have no leg to stand on!!!!

Its solicitor time for us today, if anyone else is interested in taking this down the legal route I would quite happily engage a solicitor on our side on our behalf as a group rather than individuals so we can all take them to court together. Strength in numbers.

What confuses me is that Trade Services are advertising at the Jobcentre again........we have rang our Jobcentre and complained YOU SHOULD TOO if they advertise at your Jobcentre. The only way we can bring this company down is together by doing something now, don't wait to see if you get paid, we are entitled by law to receive payment for works done, and to the fella who wants a back rate for being messed around waiting outside plumb centre JOIN THE CLUB we know how your feeling, my team was turned away from jobs that were cancelled by EAGA! Not our fault and we want paid for it.

DONT SIT ON THE FENCE ACT TODAY

 

[AngelFX]

HERE ARE THOSE NUMBERS AGAIN WE MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS

OK ANYONE WANTING TO REPORT TOTAL TRADE FOR ANY REASON I HAVE DONE SOME DIGGING AROUND AND THESE ARE WHO YOU SHOULD BE TALKING TO

UNISON - JOINING FEE APPLIES BUT THEY ARE THE DOGS TESTICLES
PAY AND WORK HELPLINE - 08009172368
TRADING STANDARDS - 08454040506
DEPARTMENT FOR ENERGY AND CLIMATE CHANGE - 03000604000 this is the governing body who issues policy to Warmfront and if you think Total Trade are not acting within that policy then these people need to know, SO if you were an employee of the company who got laid off then re-employed with the company but under a different name then you MUST contact this official government department.
WATCHDOG - BBC - Watchdog and give them 'your story'