Trade Skils 4 U

[Redvanman]

This is the quality of the workmanship that these courses say that are good enough to rewireable a house with.
Not sure how slashing accessories onto a board gives you the experience to run cables in the fabrication of a house
I would like some one whose done this type of course to give they experience of their first job they completed

 

[Anthony S]

Arghhhh awful stuff, can't chase it, can't even drill without the wall.....falling down. Seen some where I'm sure the dot and dab either side is just holding all the crumbs of clinker in.....

What you about ? you run a decent chaser down it first (with your extractor attached) then chip it out with a small sds multi straight into a rubber bucket and clear up as you go along.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

:ack2:

What you about ? you run a decent chaser down it first (with your extractor attached) then chip it out with a small sds multi straight into a rubber bucket and clear up as you go along.

Not the house I'm talking about:ack2:

it was like french toast

 

[Anthony S]

:ack2:


Not the house I'm talking about:ack2:

it was like french toast

Mad knocking a property about that sound's as though its got structural issues if the walls were load bearing.

 

[davesparks]

Whats a 3" wall? a single brick I presume you mean? or do you mean a 9" brick wall?

I think he means 2" walls, they are built from blocks which are only 2" thick

 

[Sparkly]

It would be nice to know what happened to all the people who did these courses to catch up on what they are doing now.

Yes, it would be good to know more about this course . The course is essential to move forward but in my opinion experience is what what matter the most

 

[PEG]

Dont understand why the photo didn't come up, it was there when I posted it
I will try and have another go later but Tony got it right.
what really amazed me was the fact that Nic and Eca have a fast track system for them plus a discount off the cost of joining
Now im not a NIC hater or even a Part P hater but how can these organisations expect to be given respect when they do things like this
As a foot note to Tony's experiences when I was much younger I came across a 3 inch wall for the first time and couldn't understand why I kepted drilling through it
Id hate to think of the damage these guys could end up doing but I do not blame them they really have been sold a pup
Now if the qualifications stated that they had to work along side a qualified electrician for at least 2 yrs before going out on there own then I'd respect them

I reckon it was a pre 50's gaff,where a lot of the dividing walls were built with "brick on edge",braced with varying timbers,stitched to door linings,purlin props and reveal timbers.

These were thrown up very quickly,using up as much waste commons etc as possible,not always tied to main internal walls,and gobbed up with a large infill of lime mortar.

Raking out for back-boxes can become a job in two rooms :conehead: ...and chasing out for cables should be limited to a scrape of the actual brickwork,as any deeper could get wobbly,later.

Without a doubt,the one thing that has helped me the most,over the years,with work on older properties,is the shed load of demolition i did as a youngster.

I'd bet my best anvil,that a good butcher would make a good surgeon...:icon12:

 

[The Electrician]

Organisations like this should be made illegal. People should have to complete an apprenticeship with Level 3 NVQ before even being allowed to do electrical work.

Not only that, but to me, the name "Trade Skills 4 U" or anything with "4 U" in, screams out Mickey Mouse Company.

 

[Engineer54]

Yes, it would be good to know more about this course . The course is essential to move forward but in my opinion experience is what what matter the most

Eh, ...exactly what essential course are you talking about??

 

[bf03yvd]

I'm currently doing something similar - tradesgateway. Don't know if its the same thing ? But, i'm reading conflicting stories about it. I've come this far with it now. Its like reaching an orgasm - too late to pull out now.

 

[Jonspark]

Organisations like this should be made illegal. People should have to complete an apprenticeship with Level 3 NVQ before even being allowed to do electrical work.

Not only that, but to me, the name "Trade Skills 4 U" or anything with "4 U" in, screams out Mickey Mouse Company.

Well, phones 4 U have gone bust.....

 

[Redvanman]

Sorry battery went flat last night
Round my way there are loads of 3" walls. Basically blocks that are 3" rather than 4" so if you chase in a 35mm back box or God forbid a 47"" then you've got bugger all behind it when you drill and fix.
When I had a few guys working for me some time back we rewired a house just inside London and that had 2" blocks.
First double socket went straight through when chasing, my guy phone me to tell me he'd made a letter box between the lounge and bedroom.
After that all chasing was done by hand and very carefully.

 

[TJ Anderson]

Sorry battery went flat last night
Round my way there are loads of 3" walls. Basically blocks that are 3" rather than 4" so if you chase in a 35mm back box or God forbid a 47"" then you've got bugger all behind it when you drill and fix.
When I had a few guys working for me some time back we rewired a house just inside London and that had 2" blocks.
First double socket went straight through when chasing, my guy phone me to tell me he'd made a letter box between the lounge and bedroom.
After that all chasing was done by hand and very carefully.

There is loads of it where I live. It is experience that counts here. I have done so many flush rewires I feel more akin to a miner sometimes lol. Chain drill first and also Rotary Stop SDS is variable, not just flat out as many seem to run them!! if you use a wide bit (70mm), you can almost shave it down to the depth. Then drill your fixings at an angle to reduce the depth of travel.

 

[drzsta]

When wall's are that thin I just plaster my boxes in with a bit of bonding and pva. Do all boxes in one hit and they're all ready to wire in 30 mins. No drilling through walls.

 

[shanky887614]

What you about ? you run a decent chaser down it first (with your extractor attached) then chip it out with a small sds multi straight into a rubber bucket and clear up as you go along.

if you try an sds like that you will probably cause more damage.

use a wood chisel and scrape it along wall when its close and its that easy, if the fixings bad you will need to use bonding

 

[shanky887614]

There is loads of it where I live. It is experience that counts here. I have done so many flush rewires I feel more akin to a miner sometimes lol. Chain drill first and also Rotary Stop SDS is variable, not just flat out as many seem to run them!! if you use a wide bit (70mm), you can almost shave it down to the depth. Then drill your fixings at an angle to reduce the depth of travel.

a cold chisel bit is very useful. 20mm thick is the perfect size