Unqualified, inexperienced badged "electricians"

[highspark]

How can we put an end to this drivel? Why is there people out there unqualified and inexperienced bluffing their way into work. Taking work from fully qualified time served lads?Theres a couple in my area. Driving round in vans with schemes tatooed all over them. They look the biz - the outfit. But I know they are not electricians. They are chancers bluffing their way through. The 17th Edition minimum requirement to have a schemes backing...its a farce. The problem I have is the customers can't differenciate from a fully qualified. 17th edition, 2391, tech cert nvq3 electrician from a 17th edition short course idiot! It boils my blood

 

[UNG]

the JIB can go ....... them self

Pity all the scams don't do the same along with Part P

 

[Marvo]

It’s about time this thread was closed. It’s over run it’s course.

I agree it does get tedious but I like all the highly strung part p comments in one place, makes it easier to keep an eye on a subject that easily gets out of hand.

 

[Andy 7671]

the JIB can go ....... them self

Whats so bad about JIB...?

Not being sarky ..just interested in your view point.

 

[DurhamSparky]

i see it as a big white elephant with little more teeth than a new born baby.

yes i applied to JIB yes i got accepted then i got Refused as they decided my alternative qualification were nolonger suitable as they were not City and Guilds..

thats when it dawned on me that they are just a propping up tool for City and Guilds and Vice Versa...!
hmmm monopoly comes to mind..

i have many years experience just like many other sparks who get refused by the JIB as i dont have 2330.

i do however hold Mechanical , Electrical , Nuclear qualification ranging from level 2 to level 5 on the NQF. i hold IET membership to a respectable level and i have apprentiship papers in engineering,

i will never apply again as the more i look at it the more i think sod ya!

 

[hutch6447]

Well as I said because someone has not served an apprenticeship it does not make them not competent.

I have NVQ 3 and a class 1 sparky qual in the forces but you know what, I still found the Part P Qualification, 2832, 2377, 2391 very beneficial and thoroughly worth while the crooks of it is its down to the professionalism of the person if he is willing to learn and get the necessary quals but also combine that with his own method of gaining experience what ever way he can, then I say good on him.

 

[DurhamSparky]

whats a class 1 sparky qual??

 

[Guest112]

My final word on it is I have a JIB gold card that reads ELECTRICIAN on it soon to be APPROVED ELECTRICIAN and to all the part p wonders who pull the pity phrase "I changed my career I have x ammount of kids and a mortgage..." and so on well my only advice is not to go through a career change at such an important time when people depend on you and sorry that you fell for the £50k a year lie lol

End of the day City & Guilds are recognised qualifications and have been for years and years so I will ALWAYS be an electrician, you guys are DOMESTIC INSTALLERS and will only ever be

Obviously this part p nonsense isnt working especially a few years down the line when all the faults start occurring its a matter of time untill its all changed and your all faced with another career change and us sparks can go back to our proffession

so you may tell your mates down the pub and your family that your an electrician if that makes you feel better then crack on but I KNOW what I am and you boys wont be around much longer.

Maybe start new gas regulations that let you start certing gas installs after a few days training lol

 

[ian.goddard57]

Just joined this forum a couple of weeks ago. I've done part p and am going through the process of registering with a body like EIC or NAPIT. I wanted to do everything right and be insured and do a good job. Im a plumber and part p helps with little jobs around that. Like extractor fans and stuff. I want to do the 2391 straight away when registered. Over the next few years gain more quals and learn as I go along. Being 44 with kids and all the other stuff that goes with that. I have read through this whole thread.
I had no idea that I made you experienced time served treaded the boards Electricians want to puke and be so angry that you have to leave this thread because you want sleep.
I was looking for experienced sparks in my area that might help me along the way. Now I might just steer well clear or they might puke on me or throttle me, or both at the same time.
Sorry guys, I do feel your pain. Ive got jumped up security guards doing my day job.
Perhaps I'll go and puke on them. It might make me feel better.
Cheers

 

[Guest112]

Yep I'd save your time and money and it won't be around long all in all a waste of time giving false hope

 

[DurhamSparky]

#Peterdaniels

keep ya jib card and wave it around as much as you like my son...!!

so not having C&G 2330 makes me DOMESTIC INSTALLER???

do us a favour and pop that bubble in your head..

 

[Guest112]

Iwill mate and yes you are lol

 

[DurhamSparky]

nice...!!

best quit while im ahead then...!

so exactly what qualifications DO YOU HOLD then!!!

 

[Guest112]

nice...!!

best quit while im ahead then...!

so exactly what qualifications DO YOU HOLD then!!!

are you trying to call my bluff or are you genuinely intrigued because you don't know what they are haha

 

[Guest112]

This thread is priceless all the DIs getting worried lol

 

[DurhamSparky]

post them and find out....!

see what you got on the table...??