Unqualified, inexperienced badged "electricians"

[highspark]

How can we put an end to this drivel? Why is there people out there unqualified and inexperienced bluffing their way into work. Taking work from fully qualified time served lads?Theres a couple in my area. Driving round in vans with schemes tatooed all over them. They look the biz - the outfit. But I know they are not electricians. They are chancers bluffing their way through. The 17th Edition minimum requirement to have a schemes backing...its a farce. The problem I have is the customers can't differenciate from a fully qualified. 17th edition, 2391, tech cert nvq3 electrician from a 17th edition short course idiot! It boils my blood

 

[DNS1]

I can put them back if you prefer?

Nah, it's a good opportunity for a change of subject!

Anyone see tonights performance by England?

 

[D80]

Nah, it's a good opportunity for a change of subject!

Anyone see tonights performance by England?

Nope, had to endure a 3 goal defeat for Northern Ireland at home to Norway instead!

 

[DNS1]

Nope, had to endure a 3 goal defeat for Northern Ireland at home to Norway instead!

And I thought we had it bad!

 

[Silly Sausage]

Nah, it's a good opportunity for a change of subject!

Anyone see tonights performance by England?

Watch England play crap football when you could be reading all this...no chance!

 

[Octopus]

This thread is now interesting, talking about football!!

 

[Heisenberg]

came across this yesterday. spot the 3 faults.now tell me these 5 week couses make anyone competent. don't count the lid being off, as i removed it .View attachment 10990

I notice that although people have said 4, 5, etc indicating how many of your faults they have discovered, nobody has as yet put their head on the block and attempted to name them. No doubt, they would be afraid of being labeled a Electrical Trainee if they did and got anything wrong.Being a born coward, I'm not going to buck the trend, but maybe you can enlighten us as to what you think the 3 faults are.

 

[telectrix]

think i said it earlier.

1. sheath stripped outside the JB ( about 5" ). 2. cpc's cut off. 3. 5 cables in a small terminal, screws just about holding. 4. L/N conductors, separate entries. 5. neither the cables or the JB were secured.

 

[lfcsparkycus]

im 33 and was a butcher for 16 years and wanted to be an electrician, i realised it was gonna cost me a fortune so i made sure before parting with my money that i chose the right way to enter the industry. i chose 2330 level 2 & 3 and 2382. wanna do my nvq but cant find employer at minute, just gotta keep trying. i gotta mortgage, 3 kids and could of been earning now if i chose the Electrical Trainee course but im in it for the long haul. hope it was i wise decision, not sure about the 50k a year though!

 

[Dave 85]

Plenty of self employed electricians make equivalent to a 50k a year salary. I know a half qualified (2330 level 2 and 17th) 27 yr old who makes twice that.

 

[AP Electrical]

Just to clarify i'm not a Electrical Trainee, I did my l2/3 17th at lct and 2356 l3 with xs, I come from a building background also, I feel my comments were just and have yet to receive any replys which prove what I said wrong - if the only replies I'm going to receive be offensive you just reinforce the points I've raised, I come on here for a bit of a laugh and to get involved in topics which intrest me, it just seems a shame that when somebody puts up a point you have no answers to you just either ignore the post or get slanderous.

I honestley think this forum has become more of a baiting pit than anything else.

Regards AP

 

[Knobhead]

It’s about time this thread was closed. It’s over run it’s course.

 

[RWJ]

It’s about time this thread was closed. It’s over run it’s course.

2nd that Tony

 

[hutch6447]

Yeah strange one erm from a A1 sparky that is leaving the forces after 12 years I am looking at sub contracting and moving on in another career, now I have been fully qualified within armed forces but have also took the part P and 17th edition and testing & inspection whilst on re settlement again to get civvy qualifications.

So as long as you get the qualifications and get approved with a governing body then surely you are qualified and its down then to the persons competency's to gain knowledge and use the correct working practices.

So if the person proves himself competent then he is surely good enough to work as an electrician and also have the ability to figure problems out that he will cross.

 

[UNG]

Yeah strange one erm from a A1 sparky that is leaving the forces after 12 years I am looking at sub contracting and moving on in another career, now I have been fully qualified within armed forces but have also took the part P and 17th edition and testing & inspection whilst on re settlement again to get civvy qualifications.

So as long as you get the qualifications and get approved with a governing body then surely you are qualified and its down then to the persons competency's to gain knowledge and use the correct working practices.

So if the person proves himself competent then he is surely good enough to work as an electrician and also have the ability to figure problems out that he will cross.

The problem is what what qualifications

IMO the only body that says you are qualified is the JIB all the others say you are competant but that then opens another debate

 

[DurhamSparky]

the JIB can go ....... them self