Went to quote an Inspection today......

[needasparks]

Got called to quote an Inspection this morning and thought you all would like to see some work care of a local sparks....

This is a yacht club. customer informed me that 'all work done by a sparks who did a cert last year for insurance comp but we can't get hold of him for this year can you do us one'.

So took a few pics and just had to share with you.
I should add, i did not open or remove anything to take these shots. its open air

 

[needasparks]

yes, E54. were thinking along the same lines there.
I did have a chat after taking the somewhat sparky p.o.r.n pics, he must have thought i was a japanese tourist.

It went along the lines of all major code1's would have to be isolated at the time of test but writen permission for this would be required prior to starting our inspection. I asked for a copy of their Health and safety policy so i could incorporate it into our method statement and enable me to do a risk assesment. He gave me a blank look.............And said, be carefull on the jetty as it may be slippery. Now this is a large working dry dock including dozens of moored boats so many large bits of kit moving about on cranes and the like. Again i was speachless.....
However, it is a job they are wanting like any other and the inspection is what it is, but don't anyone be fooled into thinking corners would be cut with regards to wording on the regulations and reg numbers i always quote on listing codes. I think it will go one way or the other when they are presented with the cert at the end. I know there will be alot of un-happy people that will no longer have power which will be labelled unsafe for use. All my PIR's (now EICR) have photo's of every item included as last page (NIC inspector loves this).

If this job does get the green light i will start a new thread to follow the daily findings as i'm sure i may need a few pointers on a some things. We all get stumped now and again and i'm sure another sparks will be seeing my report so it has to be correct.

 

[Knobhead]

If the place has a PE licence, copies of your photos should be forwarded to the licensing board and fire brigade.
The place deserves to be shut down.

 

[RWJ]

Part of the problem is you can issue a EICR (PIR) with loads of code 1s, the customer doesn't do anything about them even though you've spent 45 minutes explaining how dangerous it is.
The customer just tells the insurance company "Yeah we've got the 5 yearly safety certificate" the insurance company doesn't look or know what to look at and nothing ever gets done :angry_smile:

This is probably what they'll do and say "you said it was OK", and then never pay!!!


WALK AWAY....

 

[Engineer54]

Part of the problem is you can issue a EICR (PIR) with loads of code 1s, the customer doesn't do anything about them even though you've spent 45 minutes explaining how dangerous it is.
The customer just tells the insurance company "Yeah we've got the 5 yearly safety certificate" the insurance company doesn't look or know what to look at and nothing ever gets done :angry_smile:

This is probably what they'll do and say "you said it was OK", and then never pay!!!


WALK AWAY....

I doubt that very much!! Not paying for the EICR would end up opening a very large can of worms for the said party, if his intentions were to lie to the insurance company!!!
And if proved that this had been the case on previous PIR's that had been completed on this installation, the guilty party responsible could actually find himself with a rather large fine and a term in prison.

No, the best way to go, is to do a thorough inspection and testing procedure, as already mentioned complete with covering letter and photo's. Only a complete fool wouldn't pay for the service when there are photo's and signed copies of the completed EICR, that could find there way to just about anywhere that could do him damage!! lol!!

This is paying WORK which is in short supply at the moment from what i can make of it. You can't walk away from this amount of work on ill founded suppositions and maybe's...

 

[needasparks]

If the place has a PE licence, copies of your photos should be forwarded to the licensing board and fire brigade.
The place deserves to be shut down.

Shocking really, i was looking for a fire alarm...Didn't see one though. They said a visit by fire office had been done and waiting for recommendations.
Hope he didn't go to the toilet......:behead:

 

[imago]

All my PIR's (now EICR) have photo's of every item included as last page (NIC inspector loves this).

Now that's a good idea, and I'd like to use it where appropriate if that's OK with you? I will of course credit you when I do "The idea of using pictures with this report came from a bloke on the internet."

 

[needasparks]

Now that's a good idea, and I'd like to use it where appropriate if that's OK with you? I will of course credit you when I do "The idea of using pictures with this report came from a bloke on the internet."

I started doing it when i did landlords work as it helps with the terminology we have to use but its also handy for looking back as a reference if you forget to make a note of something.

 

[Spazz]

I think the main question is how did it all go when you did all the tests?

Send a copy of the certificate and pictures to building control and let them deal with it, also send them to HSE, they will have something to say for sure.

Also send a copy to the licencing authority in your local council, they will remove their Premises licence and that will stop the risk to some of the public for sure - no license - no parties!