What to do with this

[Rob1984]

Hi all I was doing some additions to the socket circuits on this install and came across this.

Tried to remove cover to test circuits and put in 30mA rcbo's but the cover will not come off the cupboard is smaller than the board.
I've put a 30mA rcd in the meter box inline in the tails but that really only stop gap measure as it not great as if it trips it's outside.
Don't know why the kitchen fitter thought this would be okay.
Would this be a code 2 as you can't get to the terminals for maintenance purposes???????

 

[Leesparkykent]

The rcd at the board is 100mA

Is it time delayed? Very rare to find an RCBO that's single module and double pole or switched neutral.

 

[Rob1984]

Yeah would have loved to attack the stupid kitchen cupboard but the client was not home and didn't want a boll#$%ing for destroying her cupboard without permission.

 

[Rob1984]

couldn'ttell from the OP's photo.i just hope his electrical skills are better than his photography skills. a David Bailey, he ain't.

I use the best in shaky hands crappy phone camera technique took years to master lol
Yeah would have loved to attack the stupid kitchen cupboard but the client was not home and didn't want a boll#$%ing for destroying her cupboard without permission.

 

[NDG Elecs]

Disagree ........... all sorts of horrors could be concealed below that cover ............. such as loose connections .............................

See what you are saying, on reflection I would FI it, which would result in an unsatisfactory outcome.
You could sort of extend the same loose terminal idea to every socket and switch that has not been inspected internally. If an EICR was being carried out then hopefully continuity testing would pick up the above, but there are situations where it may not such as conductors twisted together behind a socket front. End to end all good, r1r2 also good, but there could be numerous sockets with loose terminals..

 

[Resu]

OP I suggest the purchase of a multitool or a Fein Multimaster which would of helped with this situation (and many others).

 

[Des 56]

I get lost with some of these threads,it starts off as a "some additions" subject and is dominated by disputes about coding the cons unit cover

It warrants no more than a FU off its coming code

 

[Rob1984]

Already own two multi tools but there is no way of cutting it that would release the cover other than cutting the while side of the unit out where the ccu and as I mentioned no client around to seek permission for kitchen cupboard demolition am going back to see the client tomorrow so I'll see what the outcome is when there home and the multi tool might come out on monday

 

[Des 56]

Have you actually "tried" to remove the cover ?
edit (Sorry missed it in the first post)
You are on the job and know best,I know the starbreaker has deep sides on the cover but it looks to me as if it needs very little clearance to remove,maybe just enough for the cover to clear the Rcd,drag it sideways, then pull it off.

 

[Rob1984]

Have you actually "tried" to remove the cover ?
edit (Sorry missed it in the first post)
You are on the job and know best,I know the starbreaker has deep sides on the cover but it looks to me as if it needs very little clearance to remove,maybe just enough for the cover to clear the Rcd,drag it sideways, then pull it off.

Yeah sorry 10 mins plus trying to remove cover it will come of sideways and out but the cover is slightly bigger than the cupboard so wedges itself just inform of the ccu. Actually started to move whole cupboards trying to yank the cover out

 

[static zap]

Going nowhere 4 x Electrical Trainee ?
...Room for improvements...

 

[Rob1984]

Going nowhere 4 x Electrical Trainee ?
...Room for improvements...

time served sparky with 16 years experience thanks sorry we all can't be as perfect as some

 

[static zap]

atleast you have satifaction of solving mystery - 4x circuits (no malice intended)

 

[Rob1984]

Sorry to sound like a d##k tired and taking things to heart

 

[static zap]

(concise usually gets me in trouble .. Long posts often get skiped thru)
... 1 ...2 miss a few !

 

[Rob1984]

Yup sounds about right fell asleep on sofa woke up to update misunderstand post message without thinking to much ooppss lol