When will you start back working following the lockdown

[Phil L]

BTW, here's a little puzzle for you - I claim no originality for it.
You have a large pond, and notice an invasive weed has arrived in it. The weed doubles in area every day, and in 30 days will completely cover the pond. After how many days will the pond be half covered ? 29th day
As it happens, there is a remedy that will kill the weed without destroying the environment, but there's a 10 day lead time before it takes effect. When is the last time you can apply it to prevent the pond being completely choked ? 19th day
And lastly, assuming you get that timing right, how much of the pond is covered by the weed when you apply the treatment ? Pass

 

[Baddegg]

What weed is it man?

 

[Midwest]

I‘ve also read a similar article on weekly death rates; think it had a figure of 8000 extra deaths, contributed to the virus (accepting its not an exact science).

I tend to trust the advice & science given by our government, who are given advice by SAGE etc.

There are other European countries, that have different approaches, and different mortality rates from this virus.

But never the less, we have to follow the guidance we are given. Let them decide on the science.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

And lastly, assuming you get that timing right, how much of the pond is covered by the weed when you apply the treatment ?

1/2048th of its area (at day 19)

 

[Simon47]

Close
Apparently a lot of people say "day 15" for when the pond is half covered.
I think day 19 or 20 is the latest to apply the remedy - it sort of depends how you interpret thing a little. If the pond will be covered at the end of day 30, then as long as you applybthe remedy before the end of day 20 then you'll just squeak in.
At the end of day 20, just 1/1024th of the pond is covered, and 1/2048th is correct for day 19.
Again, many people can't understand a geometric progression like this - and they can't understand why you could have to take drastic measures when there doesn't seem to be a problem yet. 1/1024 is just under 0.1%

 

[telectrix]

1/1024 is just under 0.1%

wgich figure is approximatelythe same as the number of corona deaths per capita.

 

[mattg4321]

A couple of people I know of have been forced to try and carry on with non essential work throughout the lockdown.

They have bills to pay and it's either that or fold their business, permanently lay off their furloughed employees and default on their bills. They are directors of their ltd companies paying around 60% of their personal income in dividends.

All above board and in line with the government rules, yet no help for them. The difference in tax sole trader vs ltd company director on a £30k income is only around £500 per year, yet some people think they 'don't pay their taxes'.

This will only become more common the longer this goes on. We'll see some businesses fold and furloughed employees lose their jobs.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Seen on the news Taylor wimpy are going to open the sites again on 5th May onwards.
With PPE such as fpp3 face masks which should be standard on. Most sites due to dust and other irritants along with goggles etc then I would say it's probably safe as it can be. The key will be making sure people wear the PPE.
Expect more sites to open up over next few weeks.
I know a driver for a company who delivers plasterboard and like to the various sites. He has been told he's required back at work on 29th April. Deliveries starting the following day.
So things are firing back up

 

[rapparee]

Seen on the news Taylor wimpy are going to open the sites again on 5th May onwards.
With PPE such as fpp3 face masks which should be standard on. Most sites due to dust and other irritants along with goggles etc then I would say it's probably safe as it can be. The key will be making sure people wear the PPE.
Expect more sites to open up over next few weeks.
I know a driver for a company who delivers plasterboard and like to the various sites. He has been told he's required back at work on 29th April. Deliveries starting the following day.
So things are firing back up

I'm back, we're adapting the factory for a skeleton production run starting next Tuesday

We need to supply the Scandinavians who never had a lockdown.

 

[Midwest]

I’ve been working in a large premise since the lockdown began, supposedly following social distancing etc. Lots of other measures have been put in place, like barriers at reception, barring all bar essential contractors.

But people are people; staff have to work physically together, lifting things etc. Walking past each other in corridors, holding doors for others. Essential delivers still have to be made, and could be contaminated. And you should see the smoking shed, no 2 metre spacing there!

If you think you can return to work and able to comply with government guidance, you‘re misinformed, I’m afraid.

 

[snowhead]

As now with the lockdown and social distancing not everyone is following it to the letter, but the majority are and that's what matters.

Same thing when things restart, as long as the majority follow the guidance most of the time the spread will be limited.
If people have to work in groups, as long as the groups stay the same and not continually change then the risk of spread is limited.

 

[Midwest]

Don’t agree. Whilst I understand those that is a need to earn an income to survive, seems some don’t really understand how dangerous this virus is.

The CMO says we’ll only have an ‘exit strategy’ with a vaccine and medicines for treatment. And that’s a way off.

Masks only prevents the spread of infectious droplets from a person to others, it does not stop you getting infected. You may wish to read the procedure for removing a mask and how long one is effective. I can’t see any of that being followed on a building site.

So you go to work, get infected, and go home and pass it on.

I’m trying to be as cautious as I can.

 

[rapparee]

But people are people; staff have to work physically together, lifting things etc. Walking past each other in corridors, holding doors for others. Essential delivers still have to be made, and could be contaminated. And you should see the smoking shed, no 2 metre spacing there!

If you think you can return to work and able to comply with government guidance, you‘re misinformed, I’m afraid.

We actually built a new smoke hut to accommodate the people.

The bike shed was demolished to make way for it, but that's just a casualty of war.

 

[Vortigern]

Well I am being asked to continue/return to work on a mosque with other builders/trades who have continued working from a few weeks ago. I said I am not sure, as mid May seems to be the latest end of lockdown. But I see things are opening up again. I mean is the cure worse than the illness? I said I will consider the matter and talk next week about when to start back. To be honest I need the money. I have not jumped on the bandwagon with my cap out for freebees from the gov. I just don't know which way to jump on this. Besides I am enjoying the break and achieved a lot at home. Of course the other thing is the missus is now eying me up as the domestic worker. Think I would rather take my chances with coronovirus and work. I really don't know. I hope by next week guidance might change. At least the work before me I can work in pretty isolated work sites, which all inclines me to go and do some work.

 

[Midwest]

Well I am being asked to continue/return to work on a mosque with other builders/trades who have continued working from a few weeks ago. I said I am not sure, as mid May seems to be the latest end of lockdown. But I see things are opening up again. I mean is the cure worse than the illness? I said I will consider the matter and talk next week about when to start back. To be honest I need the money. I have not jumped on the bandwagon with my cap out for freebees from the gov. I just don't know which way to jump on this. Besides I am enjoying the break and achieved a lot at home. Of course the other thing is the missus is now eying me up as the domestic worker. Think I would rather take my chances with coronovirus and work. I really don't know. I hope by next week guidance might change. At least the work before me I can work in pretty isolated work sites, which all inclines me to go and do some work.

Working conditions have altered again for staff at my place, more stricter. As I’ve said before, it’s very difficult keeping to the social distancing guidance and carry out your work.

I understand how financially difficult it must be for you guys, I don’t envy you. As things move on with combating this virus, hopefully things will change for you.