Which qualification for domestic inspection and testing?

[DNS1]

Sorry for this basic question guys, but I'm having a hard time getting to grips with which C&G is required to qualify me for domestic inspection and testing of old installations. 2392? 2391?

A friend of mine is having trouble with nuisance RCD tripping in her 1900s terrace, so I said I'd do a sort of mock inspection, just for practice with the new MFT. They know I'm not yet qualified so can't do repair work. Just got me wondering which C&G I need to do this properly in future, the college I'm using offers 2392 before going on to the 2391 so I wondered what the difference is.

Cheers

 

[GLENNSPARK]

can a (currently!) untrained guy take off the DB cover and do the tests?

As long as you know what you are doing when it comes to testing. Not sure what experience you have of testing but there is a set sequence to follow and not something you can have a guess at. You don't want to be doing an Insulation Resistance Test and damage some sensitive equipment and have to replace it or worse electrocute yourself because you haven't carried out safe isolation correctly. There is no law to prevent you from carrying out testing but what the piece of paper(i.e 2391etc) does is prove to a court of law that you are able to Inspect and Test should something go wrong.

Have you got any electrical experience? Learning how to carryout the practical tests isn't much use if you don't understand what the readings say. Carrying out the tests is only half the battle, interpreting the results is where experince comes into its own. Any courses will expect you to have an understanding of the basics of circuit design, why you would expect certain readings etc which then allow you to advise on the results.

well....if its initial verefication inspection and testing..then yes...there is a sequence of tests to follow.....if on a periodic...then the sequence of tests dont matter....although it would be prudent to do a continuity test before subjecting the install to an insulation resistance test (for obvious reasons).....and IR test at 250V first.....just to be sure you havn`t missed anything that could be damaged if subjected to 500V.....

 

[brucelee]

the 2391-10 is for initial verification and PIRs (EICRs)
the new 2394 is the new one for initial only i believe but may be wrong for all installations domestic, commercial, industrial
the 2395 is for PIRs and EICRs of all installations in a domestic, commercial, industrial environment

and i think the 2392 is to show competency of a initial verification of domestic it may cover existing domestic not sure but when i was loking at doing it from the forum posts i gathered it was better to go direct for the 2391-10 BUT I Studied every day for 4 months 12 hrs a day to ensure i passed and I did

so if your upfor the effort then go direct for the 2391 or the newer 2394 and 5

 

[GLENNSPARK]

so in effect Bruce...the 2394 is the replacement for the 2392....?....

 

[brucelee]

Hi Mate
thought they wasnt changing the 2392

its in a pdf on C&G website i will see if i can find it mate and the 2394 is initial verification on all instalations were i thought the 2392 was jsut domestic

will have a look now lol

 

[brucelee]

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[brucelee]

City & Guilds | Electrical installation

here is a list of all the qulas and there last registration date

Glenn it looks as if the 2392 is for initial on electrical installations says nothing about only being domestic but it as ended according to the website

and the new qulas will end 2014 and they are only jsut coming in lol they must have even more devious plans to change them further lol