Who's right? Hopefully me!

[Drew34]

Yesterday whilst doing my practical assessment (2365 level 2) I caused a bit of a stink.
I was working on a couple of 2 way switches with singles through pvc conduit.
As the training centre boss walked past he started over me having blue cable at the switches.
He kept saying 'why have you got neutrals?'
My response was ' I haven't. I'm going to sleeve them brown. Surly it's not neutral if it's not doing what a neutral should do it's just a cable until terminated.'
My tutor had no problem with this method.
Maybe I should have just smiled and pleased him.
Was I right?

 

[Pete999]

Didn’t think it mattered really L and L1 are identified as live terminals

It would matter if you had a 2 or 3 gang switch and needed to loop the L to the other switches.

 

[Ian1981]

It would matter if you had a 2 or 3 gang switch and needed to loop the L to the other switches.

but then I wouldn’t have used twin brown as my switch would be mains fed with just a switch live and neutral to the light

 

[Pete999]

but then I wouldn’t have used twin brown as my switch would be mains fed with just a switch live and neutral to the light

Perhaps next time you could explain your reasoning with a little more detail, that would have avoided any misunderstanding.

 

[telectrix]

i prefer to use 3c/E for switch drops id new works. then you have L, N, S/L at both light/s and switch/es. makes it easy for retro fitting smart switches etc.

 

[Ian1981]

I thought it was obvious if I had mains at the light then I’d use twin brown at the switch and it wouldn’t matter which way they connected to the light switch

 

[ipf]

Didn’t think it mattered really L or C and L1 are identified as live terminals

What if you've got a point in a lighting circuit not identifying a sw L?
Bleedin' 'ell....easy for all these DIY ers.

 

[Pete999]

I thought it was obvious if I had mains at the light then I’d use twin brown at the switch and it wouldn’t matter which way they connected to the light switch

Would that be a single gang or multi ganged switch?

 

[Ian1981]

Would that be a single gang or multi ganged switch?

Light switch would indicate 1 switch.
If I said switches then it would be more than 1
One gang I mean

 

[Ian1981]

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[Ian1981]

What if you've got a point in a lighting circuit not identifying a sw L?
Bleedin' 'ell....easy for all these DIY ers.

Sorry I don’t follow you?

 

[ipf]

Sorry I don’t follow you?

What's the general scenario when a diyer removes a light fitting, changes it and then can't understand what's wrong?

 

[Ian1981]

What's the general scenario when a diyer removes a light fitting, changes it and then can't understand what's wrong?

They come on this forum?

 

[ipf]

They come on this forum?

Been known to, for sure.

 

[Toneyz]

IMO if the OP, who as it seems, has received conflicting advice, the training center's usually have some affiliation to a CPS member, example NICEIC approved, that sort of thing.
If he get failed for taking the advice from his Tutor, and it proves out to be the wrong advice, as in this case, I feel his recourse will be to contact the CPS and air his complaint to them, whether he will get anywhere is debatable, you have to agree to that surely, or maybe you don't.

I see where your coming from now regarding the affiliation, I think it is mostly with the NICEIC and C& G some aren't though. In my day and maybe yours you only had the FoE run/funded (in part) by the Departement of Education you didn't get all these commercial education providers. I can see the point that the training centre would want to see the student installing as taught but sleaving brown complies with the regs.

 

[Pete999]

I see where your coming from now regarding the affiliation, I think it is mostly with the NICEIC and C& G some aren't though. In my day and maybe yours you only had the FoE run/funded (in part) by the Departement of Education you didn't get all these commercial education providers. I can see the point that the training centre would want to see the student installing as taught but sleaving brown complies with the regs.

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