Wiring for 14kw range oven

[Simon386]

have had a range oven installed by electricians from kitchen fitting company and has been wired in 10mm SWA externally and then 16mm to cooler. Is this a massive case of over doing it?? Cable is obviously too big for cooker terminals and been crimped at the outlet!! Anyway, pulled oven out today and there was a small bang and a puff of smoke! Have looked at cooker terminals and as the size of the 16mm is far too big the live has come loose and touched the oven housing, now the oven only works on two rings and the rest doesn’t work at all, cooked electronic circuits I suspect. Thoughts anyone as to who’s to blame???

 

[Wilko]

Always a risk to diagnose from afar, but the Three Amigos weren't alerted by the size of the fitting on the oven, the manufacturer's instructions or their own diversity calcs.
Perhaps it just went pop?

 

[Octopus]

It makes me raging angry, been out the game 25+ years and at 44 have tried to get back into it,

Please forgive my maths but your numbers suggest you were "in the game" from 16 to 19" - so only 3 years ....

 

[Pete999]

Yes they were

brits, 3 of them! Sub contractors from kitchen installers

Were the 3 Guys all Electricians? or were they all (Kevins) kitchen fitters? or even worse (Jacks) of all trades? seems the later would be my choice.

 

[Squid]

Just realised its our place and someone put the kitchen/cooker in. Put it all back as it was and phone the HA and complain the cookers not working.
I feel better now re reading this in the morning as its seems my 15 year old gas cooker works better than modern electric sh!te ;o))))))

 

[telectrix]

our elec. oven was fitted in 1997, had 1 new element fitted (by me), otherwise trouble free. the gas hob came from a customer's kitchen strip-out. also fitted by me (don't tell gas safe). better than all the new crap on sale now.

 

[Midwest]

Our dual fuel oven was fitted in 2009. It's had 3 replacement main elements (I've got a forth collecting dust in the garage), 2 sets of door hinges, 2 circulation fan thermostats & zillions of light bulbs. It's time was up, when we had to wedge a stool against it, to keep the door properly shut. Gas hobs were faultless

 

[Midwest]

Our dual fuel oven was fitted in 2009. It's had 3 replacement main elements (I've got a forth collecting dust in the garage), 2 sets of door hinges, 2 circulation fan thermostats & zillions of light bulbs. It's time was up, when we had to wedge a stool against it, to keep the door properly shut. Gas hobs were faultless

 

[Squid]

Turn your oven off next one you pull it out

The oven wasn't cooking a roast when it was pulled out........

 

[PEG]

Turn your oven off next one you pull it out

I have just read the "disagree" on this post,and are bursting to hear the logic,of removing an appliance,for the first time,and not isolating the supply.

I can only think of two possible scenarios...and one of them,is where the person removing it,is entirely made of paxolin...

 

[telectrix]

The oven wasn't cooking a roast when it was pulled out........

nope. it was roasting a cook.

 

[PEG]

If an oven is going to be subject to vibration or constant movement then it should be wired in flexible cable.

Fair comment,but the only "constant movement" it encountered,was the single,1 meter travel,backwards,whilst connected to a live and sizeable supply,of unknown soundness

 

[Midwest]

Mine was wired in flex, due to the amount of times I had to pull it out to replace things.

 

[Octopus]

I normally do the final connection in HR flex ...........

 

[Squid]

our elec. oven was fitted in 1997, had 1 new element fitted (by me), otherwise trouble free. the gas hob came from a customer's kitchen strip-out. also fitted by me (don't tell gas safe). better than all the new crap on sale now.

Mrs Telectrix has just posted on Mumsnet (thats where I meet lonely housewives for daytime fun) that her husband installed a cooker in 1997 and her husband still doesn't know how to turn it on, or her.
;o))))

 

[telectrix]

why would i want to turn the oven on when she's there to do it. as for the last bit, i've kept her happy for 11 years, 3 times a week, she always has this look. .

 

[Squid]

I keep her happy for the other four days and the day she leaves with the instructions for the cooker you'll starve....... ;o))))

 

[Midwest]

I normally do the final connection in HR flex ...........

See what your inuendo did and turned this thread into

 

[Midwest]

Could of been worse I suppose, could of used butyl rubber.

 

[telectrix]

I keep her happy for the other four days and the day she leaves with the instructions for the cooker you'll starve....... ;o))))

sod off i got a microwave and a commercial chip fryer. plus a chippy and a kebab shop within half a mile. who needs women to cook.

 

[Midwest]

sod off i got a microwave and a commercial chip fryer. plus a chippy and a kebab shop within half a mile. who needs women to cook.

If they do cook for you, they're only after one thing. Thankfully, all those frightfully embarrassing moments are far behind me now.

Where's me pipe & smoking jacket.

 

[MJPD29]

I'd love to know where the disagree came from myself, it seems like basic common sense to me

I have just read the "disagree" on this post,and are bursting to hear the logic,of removing an appliance,for the first time,and not isolating the supply.

I can only think of two possible scenarios...and one of them,is where the person removing it,is entirely made of paxolin...

 

[Spoon]

Whats wrong with cooking? I love cooking. I even wash up.......

 

[Squid]

Pot noodle doesn't count as cooking Spoon........ ;o))))))

 

[telectrix]

i'm getting fed up with not poodle. going to try spiced spaniel next.

 

[Spoon]

Pot noodle doesn't count as cooking Spoon........ ;o))))))

How about beans on toast?