You're all cowboys! :D

[Deleted member 26818]

I seem to remember it was the Injuns that were honest, not the Cowboys?

 

[ackbarthestar]

Wouldn't that be the other way round?

Then when exposed the would be truly a Redface

 

[jase]

Option A, you cant even think about wether the socket should have RCD protection or not cos the fact is if there is no bonding in place then according to the regs you must inform the customer that no work can take place on the installation until this has been rectified, so let cowboy dave do it and then if for some reason there is a fault on that socket and the customer is touching an extraneous conductive part whilst trying to faff about with it gets a huge belt cos no bonding in place then cowboy dave is responsible NOT YOU

 

[Heisenberg]

An extention of a circuit were the cable is surface mounted, deeper than 50mm or mechanical protected.

The new socket (in this case) does not have to be rcd protected under the regs (i don't make them, I just follow them).

I know I read on here somewhere quite a while ago, where a guy had failed his assessment because his NIC assessor stated that any socket additions to a non-rcd protected circuit meant the whole circuit had to be upgraded to being rcd protected :thinking:


However, I digress, and in answer to the original question, probably A. I'm a born worrier and I'd be forever thinking 'What if'.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

If we're going to be proper cowboys, there should be an option D.
Use old colours, and a second hand socket, and tell the client, that if anyone asks, it was installed years ago.

spinlondon, you've overlooked carbon dating :drunk:

 

[mogga]

spinlondon, you've overlooked carbon dating :drunk:

the customer designed the circuit in 1999 when he bought the house but has only just got round to getting the job done

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Fair point Mogga, regs are regs!

 

[richy3333]

Option A
And walk away knowing you can sleep soundly at night.One of the only things that separates us from the cowboys is integrity and doing a job right?

 

[Matty o]

I with option D

You are not providing a new circuit just add a point to an existing one.
The cable is surface mounted.
If the socket might be used to power equipment outdoors i would fit a RCD socket

 

[Ponty Massive]

I with option D

You are not providing a new circuit just add a point to an existing one.
The cable is surface mounted.
If the socket might be used to power equipment outdoors i would fit a RCD socket

But there's no bonding there !!

 

[Guest123]

A.

Haven't the time nor the inclination to argue the ---- with morons like that!

 

[brightspark2010]

I am lost it I was under the impression it does not mater what containment the cable is run in. It is a socket outlet deemed for general use and needs to be 30mA protected the fact its not in a metallic partition wall or less than 50mm deep is irrelevant isnt it????

 

[Paul.M]

I am lost it I was under the impression it does not mater what containment the cable is run in. It is a socket outlet deemed for general use and needs to be 30mA protected the fact its not in a metallic partition wall or less than 50mm deep is irrelevant isnt it????

No.......

 

[Guest111]

leave well alone,I may be wrong but I thought that the last person to work on an install is accountable if something goes wrong on the basis that you knew there were issues with install so shouldn,t have touched it in the first place.

 

[Paul.M]

But there's no bonding there !!

I must admit that I didn't see the part in the op about no bonding when I replied last night. Me answer would be A in that case.

With bonding me answer D stands to the regs and not the urban myths that the NIC have imposed on our brains that anything we touch needs to be on an rcd. Not correct going by the regs but on the other hand it would be safer, your call as the professional electrician.