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Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"
I have made this point before and will again, there is only so much materials, labour force, time aside for legal planning requirements etc that can be done within a given time, we cannot physically build things fast enough or have the available resources to do it at the current immigration rate, the ony way would be to outsource the labour but hey don't they too need somewhere to stay, medical care, schools for their kids if its a long term contract - vicious circle comes to mind.
The EU is even turning a blind eye to a growing practice that is seeing the UK flooding with illegal immigrants through a back door so to speak.
There is 10's of thousands of people of Indian origin walking across our borders legally because the have a right to claim citizenship in Portugal due to a ruling Portugal has (Anyone born before 1961 in area's that were once Portuguese colonies), these would normally be classed as illegal immigrants but once they get EU citizenship they then bring there family to Portugal get them recognised and most head to the UK, this again make a mockery of the Goverment and what the EU stands for, check out Swindon and find out how many immigrants have Portuguese passports yet and indian accent, its caused loads of issues for Swindon already.
I take it NIMBY effects alot of peoples train of thought on the EU matters, because they haven't yet been affected it easy to say Immigration isn't an issue in their mind.
As for your last paragraph I rebute back that if its all part of the Austerity measures causing all this then how come all these problems manifested themselves long before the recession or the conservatives recent seat in government, it started as far back as 97 with the initial effects been felt in 2000 onwards - long before your claims were even brought in, the only common denominator here was the massive surge in Immigration due to easing of restrictive measures, we have recently had a few more surges due to poorer nations been added to the EU, plans are afoot for more poor countries to join too so when you can't get your child to see a Doctor it not always right to point the blame at the government, there hands are kind of tide on alot of matters.
Why is the government so desperate to get an early date for the referendum, because come summer the EU is expecting a massive surge in Immigration as the warmer weather arrives and this would make it harder to convince the public that too much Immigration isn't the issue while they are subjected to daily reports of the damage its causing the EU.
I have made this point before and will again, there is only so much materials, labour force, time aside for legal planning requirements etc that can be done within a given time, we cannot physically build things fast enough or have the available resources to do it at the current immigration rate, the ony way would be to outsource the labour but hey don't they too need somewhere to stay, medical care, schools for their kids if its a long term contract - vicious circle comes to mind.
The EU is even turning a blind eye to a growing practice that is seeing the UK flooding with illegal immigrants through a back door so to speak.
There is 10's of thousands of people of Indian origin walking across our borders legally because the have a right to claim citizenship in Portugal due to a ruling Portugal has (Anyone born before 1961 in area's that were once Portuguese colonies), these would normally be classed as illegal immigrants but once they get EU citizenship they then bring there family to Portugal get them recognised and most head to the UK, this again make a mockery of the Goverment and what the EU stands for, check out Swindon and find out how many immigrants have Portuguese passports yet and indian accent, its caused loads of issues for Swindon already.
I take it NIMBY effects alot of peoples train of thought on the EU matters, because they haven't yet been affected it easy to say Immigration isn't an issue in their mind.
As for your last paragraph I rebute back that if its all part of the Austerity measures causing all this then how come all these problems manifested themselves long before the recession or the conservatives recent seat in government, it started as far back as 97 with the initial effects been felt in 2000 onwards - long before your claims were even brought in, the only common denominator here was the massive surge in Immigration due to easing of restrictive measures, we have recently had a few more surges due to poorer nations been added to the EU, plans are afoot for more poor countries to join too so when you can't get your child to see a Doctor it not always right to point the blame at the government, there hands are kind of tide on alot of matters.
Why is the government so desperate to get an early date for the referendum, because come summer the EU is expecting a massive surge in Immigration as the warmer weather arrives and this would make it harder to convince the public that too much Immigration isn't the issue while they are subjected to daily reports of the damage its causing the EU.
