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  1. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Get your facts right, i was told. I don't think that they are going to ask if you are a member of the Tufty club, or you have a Blue Peter badge!
  2. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Just taken these requirements off NICEIC site: Scheme Requirements:- To apply for our Domestic Installer scheme you will need: • Confirmation of Public Liability insurance to at least £2m • Certificates of technical qualifications achieved by the Qualified Supervisor • Hold a current...
  3. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Thanks for your comments Andy. I am an Elecsa member, and one of the first requirements was 2391. Enough said!
  4. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

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  5. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Hi Des, there is a saying in our industry that "no 2 sparks work alike". Everyone has their own interpretation of regs etc, but facts are facts. My main point was that you cannot enrol with either Elecsa or NIC without 2391 or equivalent. In the end, one of the guys, who is a QS but without...
  6. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

  7. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Ok, guys, this is my first time on this site, and i have learned that qualifications have been overuled by the "competent persons scheme" I have been in this industry for 44 years and i am still learning today. I have virtually every qualification necessary for me to carry out my field of work...
  8. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Fair comment. It also doesn't state that you even need to be an electrician. I think that if you applied, things may get a bit more rigorous. I may be wrong, and a painter and decorator who wired his moms extension may be able to join. I hope not!!
  9. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Please don't get me wrong. I cannot call Westwood for his abilities, and i am quite sure he is competent in what he does. Has this industry gone to pot, where the "competent person" clause now covers everything. Who and what defines competency? It used to be qualifications. Now, it appears to be...
  10. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    That depends on how long you have been sat at the computer on a Bank Holiday Monday. Despite the etimology of the sentence, i think we get the jist of the conversation.
  11. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Hi Andy, i completely agree with you. I have 2391, but i still had issues with Building control and insurance companies becoming more complient. I eventually joined Elecsa to get them off my back, and by the way, you can't join Elecsa or NIC without 2391
  12. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    How would you know, if you haven't got it. Try leaving your present employer and telling them you are a qualifying officer, but don't hold 2391. Good luck with that.
  13. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Hi Andy, NIC, Elecsa and ECA are now owned by Certsure. If you hold 2391, this proves your ability to test and inspect. I don't think having a 17th edition qualification would hack it in court.
  14. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    If the job that you are in allows you to be a qualifying officer, without holding 2391, then don't rock the boat.
  15. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Fair comment. Try joinin NIC or Elecsa without it.
  16. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Hi, so look at the above posts, to find a guy that is a QS, but doesn't have 2391!
  17. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Hi, have you ever submitted a certificate to Building control or an Insurance company, under your own name?
  18. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Hi, have you ever submitted a certificate to Building control or an Insurance company, under your own name?
  19. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    I juggle 3 cordless drills whilst hanging on to a 2 metre wooden trestle. lol
  20. Steve Bramah

    NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

    Hi Andy, so what you are saying, is that because you are a qualified electrician, you are automatically entitled to fill in a cert to cover the work you have undertaken. Why do you think that BS2391 was introduced? Its a level above 1st and 2nd fix installation. To gain 2391, you need to be able...

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