A hypothetical question.

[Top Cat]

Just had a conversation with my wife about free electricity:-

If pylons are running over your land and you make a coil to get it down to 230V is it "drawing" off electricity from the grid or is it "free" electricity? Does it "hurt" the supply authority? or does it not matter?

 

[Top Cat]

The only instance I've come across of this so far that was tested and proved to be legal was a chap using a resonant coil to pick up the powerful radio signal from a nearby broadcast transmitter. The only reason it was legal was that it was a public broadcast, therefore he was an intended recipient so it was all kosher under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1984. The BBC only discovered his scheme because people living in the shadow of his house were complaining about poor reception. The story goes that they offered to pay for his electricity if he dismantled the coil.

Clever!

 

[ackbarthestar]

The only instance I've come across of this so far that was tested and proved to be legal was a chap using a resonant coil to pick up the powerful radio signal from a nearby broadcast transmitter. The only reason it was legal was that it was a public broadcast, therefore he was an intended recipient so it was all kosher under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1984. The BBC only discovered his scheme because people living in the shadow of his house were complaining about poor reception. The story goes that they offered to pay for his electricity if he dismantled the coil.

You will still need a license to receive public broadcast signals. I think they call it a radio receiver (TV license covers all domestic receiving equipment)

 

[barnzi]

The Broadcasting Receiving Licence was abolished in 1969. These days you only need a licence for TV.

 

[Top Cat]

The Broadcasting Receiving Licence was abolished in 1969. These days you only need a licence for TV.

Corectomondo!

 

[ackbarthestar]

I must be getting old, thanks guys....

Q: Do you need a TV License to listen to a radio?

A: No you do not need a TV license to listen to a radio

Ask me any question and I'll give you an answer......

 

[Geordie Spark]

Either way it would be classed as fraudulent u might aswell bypass your meter this is hypothetical of course lol

What is the best way to hypothetically bypass the meter ?? :tounge_smile:

 

[MarkieSparkie]

What is the best way to hypothetically bypass the meter ?? :tounge_smile:

Do it as a thought exercise in your head. Certainly a safe and legal method.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Must say he's looking good for his age!Lol

That is a Tony self portrait.

 

[Geordie Spark]

"Now i put my coil under the pylons and manage to run my 10Kw shower. After an hour is that meter, reading 000010Kw?"

Yes it would. Because you have used 10Kw of current the generator would have to produce that in the first place and would have to generate it again.

In every o/h HV supply there is a loss when transporting current. In your case if no one is connected up yet and you siphon off 10Kw they would put it down to leakage until they find your coil under their lines.

(sorry if that didn't make sense, wifes nagging me to get off the forum and on with housework!)

Question: How many blokes are needed to do the housework?

Answer: None .... It's a woman's job !!

(tin hat on)

 

[Silly Sausage]

Question: How many blokes are needed to do the housework?

Answer: None .... It's a woman's job !!

(tin hat on)

Maybe in the Utopia that is Geordie land! or Yorkshire where men are men and women are grateful.

I went to Lundy for a week about 96 climbing, left her at home with the baby, got home, could barely get through the front door, took about 3 weeks to clean the mess up.

 

[Paul.M]

Question: How many blokes are needed to do the housework?

Answer: None .... It's a woman's job !!

(tin hat on)

No need for a tin hat mate .

Besides it was my mess/tools/work clothes I was being made to tidy up like a naughty school boy lol. Anyway I was too busy watching snooker, come on Ali Carter.

 

[Infamous]

As others have said it won't be "free" electricity.

Just like a transformer, loading the secondary coil will cause more current to be drawn on the primary coil. There is a constant EMI relationship.

One of the most common places to see this in action: Take your typical 110V Site transformer. Next time you plug a large load into it, like a chop saw, notice how some of the lighting in close proximity on the 230v side of things dims ever so slightly. The demand on the secondary requires more "oompf" and that oompf comes from more current being drawn on the primary leading to a voltage drop of a few volts on the primary side ( hence momentary dimming)

 

[trev]

the Utopia that is Geordie land!

Can you keep quiet about how great our homeland is please. We like to keep it to ourselves

 

[Guitarist]

Can you keep quiet about how great our homeland is please. We like to keep it to ourselves

Damn, and I was planning to move there from boring old Norfolk...

 

[Top Cat]

As others have said it won't be "free" electricity.

Just like a transformer, loading the secondary coil will cause more current to be drawn on the primary coil. There is a constant EMI relationship.

One of the most common places to see this in action: Take your typical 110V Site transformer. Next time you plug a large load into it, like a chop saw, notice how some of the lighting in close proximity on the 230v side of things dims ever so slightly. The demand on the secondary requires more "oompf" and that oompf comes from more current being drawn on the primary leading to a voltage drop of a few volts on the primary side ( hence momentary dimming)

Well described!