Accenta Min G4 with AG6 problem bell

[chilworth]

Hello, I'm new here and after some advice. I'm installing an Accenta Mini G4 Alarm with Honeywell AG6 Bell (SAB). I tested the system with a battery only and everything seemed to be working fine - once I fixed a fault on one of the RKPs. My problem is now I've connected to the mains and apply the battery link to the AG6, the bell sounds and won't go off. Removing the battery link silences the bell but it won't then trigger with the bell test function from the panel. Everything inside the house works as it should and when the alarm is activated the internal siren sounds. I also can't get the strobe on the AG6 to work. I've seen posts on other sites talking about problems with the AG6 but not many solutions. Can anyone offer any help please?

Thanks

 

[Tafia]

Yep ok my mistake this used to happen to the old optima panel if you set the exit / entry to chime

Just fitted the bell box battery and thankfully the external sounder did not trigger when I removed the anti tamper screw and the cover though the strobe flashed and the internal sounder triggered. ( I had my ear defenders on) This is in line with the blurb which says in Day mode any tamper only sets off the internal noise.

I can't see the LED on the bell box I was expecting to see when the system is set though everything else seems to be in order.

May be because the sun is making it invisible!

I couldn't understand why the panel was responding to the fob and yet Honeywell techie lady told me I had to re-learn the fobs.

Thanks again for your kind assistance.

I'll drink a toast to the Electricians Forum members this evening.

Best wishes

T.

 

[tazz]

As long as its all ok, result

 

[Tafia]

As long as its all ok, result

Thanks Tazz; it was pure chance that the panel was at the exact height to make it look as if both LEDs were lit.

I was glad to note that when I was up the ladder with my ear defenders on to put the battery jumper in place that the external sounder stayed silent. Big noise from the extension speaker inside the property though.

The red LED on the bell box is not visible during daylight but glows bright at night.

Thanks again to all for your help, patience and support.

Best regards

T.

 

[TCLeics]

Hi all, wondering if anyone has experienced the same fault as me on an AG6 souder box?

I fitted it about 4 months ago, no problems, all been working fine, but the other night, we were woken by the sounder making loud clicking and bleeping noises whilst the alarm was set. Since, it has done it intermittently day and night whilst set, The sounder sounds correctly when tested, and the alarm control panel shows no trigger. Thanks in advance if anyone can help.

 

[tazz]

usually bad connected to siren terminals,

 

[TCLeics]

Thanks, will have a look in the box if it stops snowing!

 

[TCLeics]

Strange one? Wires all seem ok, and the system has been fine since fitting the AG6 in November. Checking the wires, if I disconnect the Red+ wire, disabling the outside electric, the alarm goes off and sounds properly, if I do a bell test, it sounds properly, but after re-fitting the + wire, the siren is chirping at a fast rate. I switched off the mains supply, so it was only using the back up battery in the main control box, but on switching on again, got the fast chirping sound for about 20 secs. I can only think the AG6 panel has gone faulty? Thanks for any help in advance.

 

[tazz]

More likely to be the siren unit or wiring

 

[TCLeics]

The siren actually sounds properly in some situations, panic button, or alarm trigger. I read on a forum that weather can damage the circuit board in the bell box, and cause screeching sounds, and that's pretty much what it's doing. E-mailed the supplier and he said it is possible, but need to buy a new box and send other back 1st, so looks like that's my only option at present, thanks.

 

[TCLeics]

Hi, just replaced my Bell box, and still have the same problem! Done a few tests, and it seems, although 12v is coming from my transformer in the control panel, 12v is not getting thru the circuit board. If back up battery is connected, the internal sounder is good, but if I disconnect the backup, just having mains, it goes very quiet and slow. So, I'm guessing, going to have to replace the control panel, loads of wires! Thanks.

 

[ARK]

is the internal fuse ok

 

[TCLeics]

There are 3 internal glass fuses, 2 of them, if I remove them, the alarm goes off from the SAB, so guess they are ok, if I remove the other, mains light goes out, so guess that is ok also. Thanks

 

[tazz]

The control panel has a total load of 1amp, how many pirs, bells etc are you running off this panel...?

 

[TCLeics]

3 PIR's, 1 bell, It's the same system that's been in for years, just replaced the back up battery last year and the bell box, only cos it was looking dated and wanted a more slimline one. All been working fine since fitting them about September time, until this chirping noise was coming from the bell box. If I put a tester on the wires that charge the back up battery, it shows 12v, but like I said, if the back up is disconnected, the internal sounder is very week, and goes ok again when the back up is back on, so the back up must be getting full charge.

 

[tazz]

Ok your not running more than this panel can handle, so is looking like the panel is not supplying enough power, last check before panel change is to disconnect aux cables, and test siren again, without battery, just incase a fault is pulling the panel down.