Adding sockets to a radial circuit in different directions

[finlamit]

Hi.

I have a radial circuit supplying electricity to the garage (part of the house). It's on a 20amp breaker, uses 2.5mm cable. It currently only supplies a single socket. Before anyone asks, its 100% a radial circuit. 6 months ago I had an electrician install a new consumer unit, and the testing/certificate that followed states this.

There is a single socket on the circuit. Annoyingly, the socket is at the back of the garage and right in the middle of the wall.

What I would like to do is keep this socket. Then... come out of the socket on the left, and put a socket on the left wall, and out of the right and put a socket on the right wall. I cant continue the cable round in a single direction as the garage door and other things are is in the way. Coming off in both directions from this socket it the only option.

Would this be ok? An alternative I had was to come out of the the top of the socket into a junction box (30A), then the two cables come out of this... best described as a T junction.

In case anyone wondered, there will not be any high load appliances used. One will supply the chargers for my tool batteries, the other will be Christmas lights!

Thanks in advance.

F

 

[nicebutdim]

Fully agree, but there's nothing to suggest that the OP is incompetent in this thread.
On the other hand, the thread about transferring a socket from kitchen RFC to boiler spur ........

That concisely sums up my own thoughts.

 

[LastManOnline]

My question was not about people misrepresenting themselves, but prosecution of homeowners who have undertaken works that should have been carried out by a registered electrician.

Aah! Never spotted the "homeowner" part. Must look in to that.

The prosecutions that I am aware of are...
1)representing yourself as registered when you are not
2) individuals carrying out work not in harmony with regs and deemed to be dangerous. (electricians and diyers)

In none of the above cases have I heard of injuries resulting to anyone. All cases though resulted in either fines or jail time for those carrying out the work.

 

[brianmoooore]

If a home owner does a full rewire , without notifying building control, and then commissions a full EICR (not an EIC) from an electrician who is a scheme member, then there will be no repercussions.

 

[LastManOnline]

If a home owner does a full rewire , without notifying building control, and then commissions a full EICR (not an EIC) from an electrician who is a scheme member, then there will be no repercussions.

Yes. Of course there will always be ways to circumvent regulations.However the "wriggleroom" currently is the tightest I have ever experienced. A registered spark who certifies an unregistered sparks work nowadays knows he faces certain disqualification from the registration body should he be caught.
A registered spark who certifies a diyers work is looking at serious penalties.
In the current environment, I cannot imagine a scenario where a homeowner would wire his own house and realistically expect it to be certified by a professional

 

[digger123]

Yes. Of course there will always be ways to circumvent regulations.However the "wriggleroom" currently is the tightest I have ever experienced. A registered spark who certifies an unregistered sparks work nowadays knows he faces certain disqualification from the registration body should he be caught.
A registered spark who certifies a diyers work is looking at serious penalties.
In the current environment, I cannot imagine a scenario where a homeowner would wire his own house and realistically expect it to be certified by a professional

Maybe not expect it to be certified at all, I know of at least 4 house sales in NI in this last few months of which 3 were completed with no regard to the state of the electrics, 1 at over £200000 and 2 x in the region of £350000 all 3 houses were over 30 years old. In ROI or mainland UK can/does a house be sold with no recent EICR, or is an EICR only provided when ask for by the buyer?

 

[pc1966]

I am not sure, but as far as I know a satisfactory EICR is only needed for rented property. You can buy/sell without one, but often the buyers are now asking for it to be provided.

However, given the poor standards of many that appear on this forum from "drive by" inspections done by the agents cheapest choice, I'm not sure just how much they help. At least if the EICR turns out to be poor to the point of fraudulent you ought to have come-back at either the electrician and/or seller's expense, which is better than bought "as seen" I guess.

 

[LastManOnline]

In ROI or mainland UK can/does a house be sold with no recent EICR, or is an EICR only provided when ask for by the buyer?

In my experience it is currently not a requirement on the seller to provide an EICR

 

[BiddeldyBwah]

Maybe not expect it to be certified at all, I know of at least 4 house sales in NI in this last few months of which 3 were completed with no regard to the state of the electrics, 1 at over £200000 and 2 x in the region of £350000 all 3 houses were over 30 years old. In ROI or mainland UK can/does a house be sold with no recent EICR, or is an EICR only provided when ask for by the buyer?

You don't need one unless the buyer insists. What happens in reality though is this holds up the sale if the seller decides to make an issue of it and it's not worth the hassle for most people, and so it gets left.