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Paul m.
Did my 2391 in 2007 in wales under Ila wales they paid first 200 quid .
Wouldn't bother with jobcentre they don't know anything,would try careers office though their not just for teenagers, they might point you at funding.
 
Kamikaze. Yes mate so did I. They only needed someone to cover local work whilst they sent half if their sparks away on a rewire, they just forgot to tell me or pay me. A lot of work for no money now going down to route of ccs, found out they use trades like this all the time, long story, I won't post any more.

Problem is no one is interested unless you have the 2391, loads of suitable jobs out there if I had it. I may become a male escort and report back what the average wage is, I bet the perks of the job are better
 
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Paul

I'm finding that a large % jobs being advertised are bullcrap, agencies are just taking names. Ive experienced this a few times now, so as a mate of mine who moved up to Lincolnshire last year.

The 2391 is a good paper to have, but Ill be honest with you, mine as not done me any real favours this year. Some people I know are still earning well, in with the right people without all the certs etc.

It got really tough in 1994 and feels the same right now. Back then there was no internet, so agencies could not flood job sites with bullcrap adverts just to get names on their books.

Whats ccs mean?
 
Being relatively young, started my apprenticeship at 17 and only out of my time 5 years, have any of the older guys seen things so bad. In my eyes i cant see it ending.
 
Unfortunately Paul, so do i think it's a great country. I only spent a short time in Canada, had plans to emigrate to Nova Scotia, was ready to go, but personal reasons stopped me from taking the leap. I now live in a nice place, see my son regularly, surrounded by friends and family and am pretty content. Where i live now has been home for most of my life, so doubt if i'd move away now. Home really is where the heart is.I work for a company, and do a bit of work outside to top up the wages. I'm seriously considering becoming self employed, but realise after reading this thread and others that we don't live in the best of times, so may build up the business while still employed.

My employed rate is about £15 per hour, but no overtime, etc... just a salary. For that i have to look after 14 buildings, PAT testing, intranet and data switches, phone network, teach electronics, fire alarms, organise outside contractors, fire risk assessments, unblock toilets, etc... Feel like i'm being used a bit. I feel like i could do this for myself and earn a lot more, though i know it's going to be hard work, and it does frighten me a bit. I've always been used to a salary.

On an optimistic level, i can see (and have seen it before a few times) that when there's a recession, things don't get done, but still need doing, and when we come out of this there will be a lot of work for us. Take Kent schools for instance. A report has found that 520 state schools in our county are in need of urgent repairs and a lot of these need rebuilds. This work has been put on hold, but will have to be done at some point in the future. Same applies to housing and new business startups that will all need our skills when they open up.

I can see, and it always happens just before an election, good times ahead on the jobs front. We should all grit out teeth, get through the next two years as best we can, and be ready for the gold rush. The one thing that does need sorting out though, is the confusion that PART P has bought into our industry. I personally would like to see the government take control and issue some kind of professional card which would only be issued to fully qualified tradesmen, either through qualifications and experience combined, or training and exams. My appprenticeship back in the early eighties was in electronics servicing, and i have C&G and EITB qual's, but have been doing commercial electrics for 20 years now, 10 with the MOD. Have 2391, 2377, 16th and 17th edition. I like to think i'm fully qualified, but others may beg to differ as i'm not JIB and didn't serve an electricians apprenticeship. Don't know what you think?

Sorry, going on a bit here, but i love the forum. I love the debates, the opinions, disagreements, sarcasm, etc... I find it as useful a tool as any i have in my toolbox. Great bunch of lads.

Tony.



I think in the domestic world we should have 2-3 levels only and each one able to sign off their own work. A kitchen fitter should be able to run new spurs etc and connect to board if required. Sign off etc. Its not rocket science. And would allow more people to get on with doing work legally.

I sometimes see electrical work as over complicated . I could repair cars without any formal training and it would be legal Then kill people having not done the brakes well etc !!

Just how many accidents /deaths are there a year from domestic electrical issues caused by electricians ?
 
I think in the domestic world we should have 2-3 levels only and each one able to sign off their own work. A kitchen fitter should be able to run new spurs etc and connect to board if required. Sign off etc. Its not rocket science. And would allow more people to get on with doing work legally.

I sometimes see electrical work as over complicated . I could repair cars without any formal training and it would be legal Then kill people having not done the brakes well etc !!

Just how many accidents /deaths are there a year from domestic electrical issues caused by electricians ?

If the kitchen fitter can fit a few spurs, then can I fit a work top, tile and do the painting?
 
of course. without wanting to do you down, there is an argument for being multi talented. Why NOT offer the whole service. I am a spark, but i don't leave the plastering of my chases up to others. Or the painting either. Offer the whole programme and increase your appeal.
 
Thats how i first started years ago. I was a "Decorative painter" (Fancy paint finishes and bloody great money !) Got asked to find someone to run in some 5 amp sconce bed lights. took 4 days to find a electrician to come. He charged a fortune and never made good. So another 2 days later to bond and skim.. Now i thought "that looked too easy" so started to do it myself and go to college etc
I win, I earn more, customer does not have to wait and its a lot cheaper all round. Also less people in the house .
 
Kamikaze. Yes mate so did I. They only needed someone to cover local work whilst they sent half if their sparks away on a rewire, they just forgot to tell me or pay me. A lot of work for no money now going down to route of ccs, found out they use trades like this all the time, long story, I won't post any more.

Problem is no one is interested unless you have the 2391, loads of suitable jobs out there if I had it. I may become a male escort and report back what the average wage is, I bet the perks of the job are better


Kamikaze is shaking his head in despair!
As for the male escort idea, you be careful…lol. It’s a huge responsibility being the ultimate sexual fantasy. Women’s hearts are easily broken. :D
 
This thread is doing nothing for my motivation.

Maybe there needs to be a new "section" on the Forum named "Becoming an electrician" where this thread could be moved to and all new people looking at the trade as a new occutpation/venture could brouse through the input and make up there own minds!!
 
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Generally speaking, £25 an hour offshore self employed. May sound a lot, but that's for 2*84 hour weeks + 6 hrs travel to and from rig - and 2 weeks off with no pay in between. What really sickens me is that I was earning the same amount 5 years ago with the same client on the same rig.
 

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