circuits wired in flex?

[mogga]

it depends on the CCC and other properties of the"flex" more and more shop fitting ,motor rooms,bouler rooms are being done with YY and SY "flex" but a lot are wrongly installed specialy the glanding and earthing of braids
Then there is the question of colours in 5 core YY all cores are black with numbers on them many PIRs iv seen no other markings put on the cores not even on the earth its Shoddy instaqllers who give a bad name to this stuff the YY,SY are good in many other ways when installed CORRECTLY but its easy to mess up the installation of these

 

[Engineer54]

As i said, if were talking ''appliance'' type flexible cable, that isn't, ...as far as i know anyway, been manufactured or classified for ''hard wiring'' then it shouldn't be used or seen in that context!! There are plenty of flexible types of cabling that IS classified/manufactured for hard wiring, .... i don't think anyone can or have objection to those cables being used. But if were talking about the appliance flexible lead type of cable, then things have gone way down hill... That's like installing a general off the shelve extension lead as the permanently supply of a circuit to my mind!!! Very Professional, ....NOT!!!!

 

[Edd]

On holiday a few years ago (more like 10) in menorca there was a hotel that had been half built and never finished!
The whole place had been wired in flex.. I did enjoy exploring around..
So anyway It may not be what we all Like, but as our colours have already changed I do wonder how long it will be till we Have to wire in flex.. Im of the old school and if i find flex im straight into thinking DIY even though as others have stated its not against regs.. we all need to move foward

 

[Engineer54]

On holiday a few years ago (more like 10) in menorca there was a hotel that had been half built and never finished!
The whole place had been wired in flex.. I did enjoy exploring around..
So anyway It may not be what we all Like, but as our colours have already changed I do wonder how long it will be till we Have to wire in flex.. Im of the old school and if i find flex im straight into thinking DIY even though as others have stated its not against regs.. we all need to move foward

It may have looked like common flex, but more probably wasn't!! They use different wiring cables in Spain to those used in the UK. Some can certainly look like flex, that's for sure!! lol!!

I'm not exactly sure that common appliance flex does comply to the Reg's?? As it isn't rated or manufactured as a hard wiring building cable, ...It is what it is, appliance cord!!!

 

[jase]

so all you guys who dont like using flex run all your outside lighting in t+e then? clipped dierect to the outside of a house looks great? and doenst perish at all?
and on a comercial not i have seen plenty of cctv systems that use twin coax and 2 core flex cables.

 

[Daveyboy]

I've seen a few offices wired in flex!

 

[Engineer54]

so all you guys who dont like using flex run all your outside lighting in t+e then? clipped dierect to the outside of a house looks great? and doenst perish at all?
and on a comercial not i have seen plenty of cctv systems that use twin coax and 2 core flex cables.

Oh well then, ....that must make it all, all right then!!! Off you go then, and on your next re-wire you can use common flex chord to wire the house, lights, sockets, ...you name it. ...Geezus!!!

 

[dingledong]

what is common flex cord and whats with appliance flex. never seen appliance fley longer than a metre. i dont think 2.5 flex is appliance flex do you are you all the new breed electricain so cos you dont like it you tell the customer ist wrong and that part needs rewiring. ive not used flex to rewire a gouse but of course have run flex where i thought it was appropiate

there is no reg against using flex as long as its the correct size and as for strands coming of when stripping . .well practice a bit more and strip it correctly easy hmmn

 

[Big n Daft]

Plumbers wire in flex...................nuff said.

 

[Engineer54]

what is common flex cord and whats with appliance flex. never seen appliance fley longer than a metre. i dont think 2.5 flex is appliance flex do you are you all the new breed electricain so cos you dont like it you tell the customer ist wrong and that part needs rewiring. ive not used flex to rewire a gouse but of course have run flex where i thought it was appropiate

there is no reg against using flex as long as its the correct size and as for strands coming of when stripping . .well practice a bit more and strip it correctly easy hmmn

There are plenty of kitchen appliances wired with 2.5mm flex for god's sake, and some even in 4mm flex in commercial kitchens. And where pray, do you consider appliance/common flex is appropriate then?? ....Running under floorboards thru joists interconnecting between downlights, maybe down to the switch positions??

Nothing wrong with connecting, say from a lighting JB to a down-light or fitting with a short length of flex with some form of heat resistant sleeving on the connection leads... But, running round the ceiling under floorboards connecting up several down-lights as the circuit wiring isn't what the flexible cable was made or intended for!!

''Easy'' just about sums up what it all comes down too

Common flex = Appliance flex

 

[dingledong]

most appliances are wired in 1.5 flex
wouldn't need heat resisting sleeving if you used heat resisting flex and flec could be used to run around cielings for say down lights
where does it say its wrong ???
and i dont agree with your terminology common flex or appliance flex. is that what you would call it when you went into your wholesaler ?

 

[dingledong]

got to stop drinking when i'm on here my typing is bad

 

[morph]

flex is fine in the right application, ie outside or final connections to immersion heater or from rock light fittings etc

 

[Hawk81]

Someone please tell me the major difference in having flex and twin and earth clipped above a ceiling? A serious and proper answer not rubbish like flex was not intended for this use or it's bad practice

 

[Engineer54]

most appliances are wired in 1.5 flex
wouldn't need heat resisting sleeving if you used heat resisting flex and flec could be used to run around cielings for say down lights
where does it say its wrong ???
and i dont agree with your terminology common flex or appliance flex. is that what you would call it when you went into your wholesaler ?

In your case then, ...We'll call it ''hard wiring''!! ...OK

Personally, i don't really care what or where you, or anyone else uses it!! Just don't try and come here and convince us, that this practice is perfectly normal cause it isn't and never has been. What it is, ....is easy installation!!