Cooker Connection

[ic3y]

Hi Guys

I need to move my cooker 4 meters.
so my question is

Can the existing 6mm cable be joined by crimp and heat shrink (by a qualified electrician) to the new cable and buried in the wall then plastered.

the reason for doing this would be asthetic as the joining block and double blanking plate looks naff
and cupboards on wall would fall half way across it making it inaccessable anyway and there no more existing wire to bring it further down and that would look horrible too.

cheers guys

Jeff

 

[Octopus]

Well.......... I would suggest that you need a sparky to advise you. There are other things to consider than just the joint.....

 

[telectrix]

as he says ^^^^^. discuss with your sparks the best way to schieve your goal giving consideration to the aesthetics. not all sparks just bang in a piece of trunking.

 

[odawire]

Hi Guys

I need to move my cooker 4 meters.
so my question is

Can the existing 6mm cable be joined by crimp and heat shrink (by a qualified electrician) to the new cable and buried in the wall then plastered.

the reason for doing this would be asthetic as the joining block and double blanking plate looks naff
and cupboards on wall would fall half way across it making it inaccessable anyway and there no more existing wire to bring it further down and that would look horrible too.

cheers guys

Jeff

You can do this but I would suggest leaving in a more accessible position like maybe drop down under the kitchen units?

 

[Octopus]

You can do this but I would suggest leaving in a more accessible position like maybe drop down under the kitchen units?

No you shouldn't do this. The OP is a DIYer and he's pointed out it won't be accessible.

 

[odawire]

No you shouldn't do this. The OP is a DIYer and he's pointed out it won't be accessible.

Did you read my post? I said put it somewhere else, more accessible. However if the cable was crimped and plastered over, what would be the problem with that?

 

[Octopus]

Did you read my post? I said put it somewhere else, more accessible. However if the cable was crimped and plastered over, what would be the problem with that?

If the end of the cable is in a back box, that would fall behind a cupboard, and would be inaccessible, how could the OP move it? Well, that's how I read the OP.

 

[odawire]

If the end of the cable is in a back box, that would fall behind a cupboard, and would be inaccessible, how could the OP move it? Well, that's how I read the OP.

yea, its not always easy to understand what people mean, but a properly crimped and sleeved joint doesn't have to be accessible

 

[Octopus]

yea, its not always easy to understand what people mean, but a properly crimped and sleeved joint doesn't have to be accessible

Yup, but how many DIYer's have the tools and skills to do it that way, and do the necessary tests??? Less than 1% is my guess.

 

[ic3y]

Thanks guys

It is obvious that i speak a different language.

I am not doing this myself and i did say by a qualified electrician.
i just wanted to know if he could crimp and shrink wrap and then that connection be sunk in the wall
and be forgotten about rather than have a horrible blanking plate with cupboard going half way across it.

and no it cannot be dropped lower and no more cable.

so to put in simply without adding any complications

can you crimp vac and plaster over.

thanks again

Jeff

 

[somersetsparks]

He would probably try to pull it back into ceiling void and join under floor then extend cable to new point, depends on situation, personally I would use surface sticky back MT2 straight across tiles, into side of blank plate at old point then 50mm surface box at new point, proper job ;-)

 

[ic3y]

new cooker switch is sunk in wall , looks lovely, join is connection block and blanking plate which as i said falls really awkward. this work has already been done but i dont like it. i want it sunk and plastered over so it looks nice if at all possible lol....

I know regs are different for crimping so just wondered if it could be done, and i could suggest it to the electrician when he comes to finish off saturday

If it is not possible so be it.

thank you

 

[somersetsparks]

new cooker switch is sunk in wall , looks lovely, join is connection block and blanking plate which as i said falls really awkward. this work has already been done but i dont like it. i want it sunk and plastered over so it looks nice if at all possible lol....

If it is not possible so be it.

thank you

You really need to get your sparks back to have a look, it would all depend on whether, if the cables were crimped and plastered over, if the cables were then in a safe zone (likely not) however, it may be possible that the box could be chased a bit further up the wall so the blankplate is entirely behind unit?

 

[ic3y]

Thank you he is coming back saturday

Am i getting this right

He could put it further up and because it is behind a cupboard it is technically a "safe zone"
so regs are ok with that

 

[ic3y]

You really need to get your sparks back to have a look, it would all depend on whether, if the cables were crimped and plastered over, if the cables were then in a safe zone (likely not) however, it may be possible that the box could be chased a bit further up the wall so the blankplate is entirely behind unit?

i like that idea i will suggest it....ty