Cooker control unit - inside cupboard?

[ash_s3]

Hi
Can you install a 45A Cooker control unit inside a kitchen cupboard?

For example if you had an integrated oven in a tall unit and there was nowhere suitable on the nearest wall to put the cooker switch (in an alcove)

Say if the switch was in the cupboard above or below the cooker?

thanks

 

[ajelec10]

The argument is, it is accessible although you would be mounting it on a combustible surface, i would say you can do it but it needs to be the last resort??
Any more ideas??
Regards
AJ

 

[ash_s3]

It would definitely be accessible, would be as soon as you open the cupboard door mounted on the side, it would either be mounted on the cupboard surface or cut into the carcass with a dry-line box.

I think it would be fairly obvious where it is, surely if you couldn't see it directly in-front of you on the wall, the first place you'd look would be in the cupboard above/below the oven!

 

[cheeky_blue]

I have actually spoke on the phone with the niceic about this and it is fine. I had to ring because some cooker fitter from Currys (the new cooker was arriving a couple of days later) refused to connect it up and I wanted to be 100% before telling him.

 

[ash_s3]

Thanks Cheeky, saved me having to scratch my head to find another location for it now its all been plastered!

 

[Lou7]

Tht's funny I asked NIC last week and was told cooker switch should be on show!
no problem with outlets for other items just cooker.

 

[Guest123]

See hear.

http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...rical-forum/6622-socket-kitchen-cupboard.html

 

[andyb]

According to the osg page 160 the cooker switch should be located within 2m of the cooker but not directly above it.

 

[Bulmer]

Cooker switch will be on show within the 2 m surely. Think the OP is talking about the connectiontion unit fed from the main cooker switch.

Hope I'm right and not talking ballox

 

[lister]

So long as its on view so in the event of fire it can be isolated quickley so water can be thrown over cooker your ok, if you have to search around and empty cupboards to find where the electrician put it because he couldnt be bothered to do his job properley then you will wish it was on view.
imo any one not doing this should be shot.
(rant over)

 

[andyb]

Lister, you really shouldn't throw water over a cooker.
Try using a fire blanket.

 

[lister]

if having a big red fire blanket on diplay is not an issue then a small red cooker switch shouldnt be a problem

 

[sparks1234]

So long as its on view so in the event of fire it can be isolated quickley so water can be thrown over cooker your ok, if you have to search around and empty cupboards to find where the electrician put it because he couldnt be bothered to do his job properley then you will wish it was on view.
imo any one not doing this should be shot.
(rant over)

Because the electrician couldn't be bothered to do his job properly????

With the amount of spurs required these days for so many electrical items and people really do like to see clean lines / walls and most people living in a house would know where their nice new isolator is for their cooker / washer etc etc why not put it in a cupboard adjacent to the appliance? I find it rather strange that this is "not bothering".

I have found that if you have the kitchen fitter bring the cables through at a suitable place next to the inside of the cupboard, then install a 600 mm length of 100 x 50 trunking with boxes on and an endcap the job is very neat and tidy and does what it is supposed to.

Oh....RANT OVER

 

[Bulmer]

Whats so hard about installing 1) Switch above work surface, within the allowed 2m of the cooker, then 2) putting the connection unit below in the cupboard?
The point of isolation is still acessible in case of an emergency, that is unless lister has thrown a gallon of water on the burning chip pan and totally nuked the whole kitchen.lol

 

[ash_s3]

I do mean the actual isolator, not the connection outlet.

There is nowhere practical within 2m of the oven to have it 'on-show'
So the next best thing is inside the cupboard directly under it surely? It will be on the side at the front - seen as soon as you open the door, NOT mounted on the back panel so you have to empty the cupboard before you can get to it.