Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

Darkwood · Mar 21, 2015

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago.

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Raptor0014 · May 16, 2023

pc1966 said:
They could not work out how to get the CPC in and still have the shutters clamping the L&N.

Amateurs.

Use a fork to push the earth spring down. Put the conductors in and then you double over the CPC and put in the earth. Job done.

Mike Johnson · May 16, 2023

Opening the shutter is what screws are for.

Dave OCD · May 16, 2023

pc1966 said:
They could not work out how to get the CPC in and still have the shutters clamping the L&N.

They couldn't find a bit of g/y sleeving and didn't want to leave a bare cpc which would be non-compliant.

7029 dave · May 16, 2023

No cable clips shoddy, not a bad 90 considering gaffer tape.

timhoward · May 16, 2023

Using two different types of tape though - it's almost as if they don't care about presentation

ipf · May 16, 2023

Dustydazzler said:
I spotted the issue straight away , they forgot to connect the earth ?

Another fitted a rod cos they're worried about TN-C-S supply to an outside shed.

mainline · May 17, 2023

Billy bodgeit from the pub told him that he doesn't need an earth for the rcd to work.

Raptor0014 · May 17, 2023

Not dodgy, but lack of understanding of the requirement for bonding. Plumber was impressed with his work though and even pointed out where he'd scraped off the paint on the pipework!

Dustydazzler · May 17, 2023

Im surprised he didn't put a clamp on the blue plastic pipe as well with a link between the 2

littlespark · May 17, 2023

Which came first, the green wire or the blue pipe?

ipf · May 17, 2023

littlespark said:
Which came first, the green wire or the blue pipe?

Now...that IS the question.
Looks like be an existing bond. Whatever, it's causing no problem.

timhoward · May 18, 2023

Today's fun. I was only there to change a cracked socket front a quick end of day job, which I did.

As far as I can tell it's TT (found the rod and getting 2 ohms Zs from CPC bar) but can't verify what else is bonded at this point. There's only one earth wire that isn't a CPC coming into the board, so suspect there's a MET somewhere in Narnia.
I didn't want to try a high current test in case there's an upfront RCD in there too!

Also of note is the split load board, so potentially inadequate fault protection for right hand half if parallel paths are removed.
I had to say that I couldn't prove I'd left it in a safe condition and I'd have to return, take the panel off and see what is actually going on.
(The panel is actually about 4 times as tall as shown and extends to the top of the stair well just to help matters)

Some photo's pointing my phone in the hole...

The earth wire below goes to an old oil pipe not the cut-out btw

pc1966 · May 19, 2023

timhoward said:
As far as I can tell it's TT (found the rod and getting 2 ohms Zs from CPC bar) but can't verify what else is bonded at this point. There's only one earth wire that isn't a CPC coming into the board, so suspect there's a MET somewhere in Narnia.

2 ohms is either a very rubbish TN or a suspiciously good TT result!

Of course if there is a lot of oil pipe or whatever buried in damp ground then 2 ohms is possible, but it feels to me like a lot of buried metal or extraordinarily wet & salty ground.