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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[JK-Electrical]

just wonderoing which is the worst. the music or the video.

It's a very close call.

 

[freddo]

A fan 'isolator' found during a periodic inspection. It switched the fan on and off but left it live. Perhaps it was some attempt to wire the timer fan into a circuit with no switched supply.

Carrying out some alterations in a new office building, found during testing, the terminals had been seriously overtightened, I assume with an impact driver.

 

[Pete999]

A fan 'isolator' found during a periodic inspection. It switched the fan on and off but left it live. Perhaps it was some attempt to wire the timer fan into a circuit with no switched supply.
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Carrying out some alterations in a new office building, found during testing, the terminals had been seriously overtightened, I assume with an impact driver.
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Was it done by someone who was deemed Competent, or by a proper Electrician?

 

[pirate]

Hi Wilko, thanks for that clarification. I understand that a proper, correctly tightened joint with full pressure on the whole of the intended connection is clearly the best situation. I guess either of the scenarios I mentioned will indeed eventually lead to failure in some way or another.
I was also thinking of Wago vs chockbloc...I love Wagos, but I get the feeling that the actual contact area might, depending on conductor size, be quite small on the lever ones, compared with a correctly sized chockbloc where the surface area in contact with the connector might be greater, if properly tightened. Just a thought...

 

[Wilko]

Yes, understood. I think I'll have to dismantle a Wago to see what the contact area is like. I'm sure they're fine btw - just out of curiosity

 

[freddo]

Was it done by someone who was deemed Competent, or by a proper Electrician?

I'm not sure, I guess I could ask them, but as they don't speak English I don't think they would understand the question...
To be fair the installation was OK for the most part. The design of the installation is certainly good.

 

[freddo]

Problem with a floodlight.

 

[elsparko]

Problem with a floodlight.

i had a job to inspect a floodlight, hadnt worked for ages, i popped the cover off to check the bulb and out pished about 2litres of water

 

[elsparko]

same with bollards, is it really above 90% of "electricians" to drill a drainage hole at the bottom of the stem?

i had to fault find on some bollards once after several companies had looked at it, i took off all the covers and jackpot, bollard connections immersed in about 2ft of water, duct had filled with water also so i opted for a re-wire of the 3 bollards

dont know what the other guys had done as far as testing but they couldnt have missed the water in the bollard if they had bothered to inspect them

a small drainage hole and some forethought would have saved the installation, it wasnt even 5 years old

 

[HandySparks]

This light looked OK, but with low IR on the supply.

Although I did notice an odd dribble of water on the outside.

So I started to investigate and found that the installer had filled the base with expanding foam.

Causing the whole post to fill with water.

Including the junction box half way up.

Yes, it's a connection to SWA. And none of the cable armour in the garden was earthed.

 

[Wilko]

Problem with a floodlight.

A new standard has been set with live action and a fire !

 

[Toneyz]

This light looked OK, but with low IR on the supply.
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Although I did notice an odd dribble of water on the outside.
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So I started to investigate and found that the installer had filled the base with expanding foam.
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Causing the whole post to fill with water.
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Including the junction box half way up.
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Yes, it's a connection to SWA. And none of the cable armour in the garden was earthed.

Never known filling the base with expanding foam, what was the reasoning for that? The lamp post shouldn't be letting in water.

 

[johnduffell]

The lamp post shouldn't be letting in water.

True but like any unheated void, the post should be ventilated and drained in case of condensation. That level does look a bit beyond a normal buildup of condensation though!

 

[HandySparks]

Never known filling the base with expanding foam, what was the reasoning for that? The lamp post shouldn't be letting in water.

No idea why it was filled. Maybe to stop ants, etc., making a nest inside?
My policy with any outdoor stuff is to assume that water will get inside and always drill one or two drain holes (usually a 4.5mm drill) whether the manufacturer's instructions say to or not. With outdoor bulkhead lights, I'll sometimes cut out a small section of the rubber gasket at the bottom edge.

 

[dksanders]

No idea why it was filled. Maybe to stop ants, etc., making a nest inside?
My policy with any outdoor stuff is to assume that water will get inside and always drill one or two drain holes (usually a 4.5mm drill) whether the manufacturer's instructions say to or not. With outdoor bulkhead lights, I'll sometimes cut out a small section of the rubber gasket at the bottom edge.

The problem with that though is ants. I investigated a clients swimming pool area where 3 sets of lights were tripping the RCDs. Each and every bollard (12 in all) was full to the top with an ants nest and damp soil and I had to replace the lot.

Manufacturers instructions take priority and if they don't say to drill a drain hole, then they've designed and made the fitting so it should not need one so I don't.